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VE3WBZ > CAR 31.05.12 23:44l 93 Lines 3806 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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To : CAR@WW
TO: CAR @WW
FR: VE3WBZ
DT: Thursday, May 31st.,2012 @ 1703hrs EST <JPST>
<< Quoting G0TEZ to CAR @WW >>
> I think everyone is waiting to see an effective electric car
> with plenty of refuelling points but, as I see it, the big problem
> has always been onboard storage. Whether it be very heavy batteries
> or fuel cells.
Hello Ian, and mostlikely others asking in silence...."when too";
After the war, my father was always interested in and was selling
electric trolley commericail vehicles, and from his drawings, and
tech of the day, yes the onboard storage. Those are far cry days
to today, and I point to again Toyota success in Canada, and our
cold harsh climate for beta-testing of these vehicles, but as
mentioned the lady who was a tester in the next town over, she
is buying the next generation Toyota electric, and a motorist that
brought her old one, is absolutely happy to have the old car, which
will no doubt be upgraded, and still a part of the ongoing test.
I have not got around to going, or dropping by a dealership to
see one, or even a Nissan dealer for the "leaf" but maybe next
time when in the area, just to see what they use, and how...etc.
> That is what i liked about the so called 'aircar'. We all imagine
> gas storage in compressors, welders etc; to be enormously heavy,
> e.g. an acetylene cylinder is about 1 cwt (50kg) the associated
> oxygen cylinder is about 2 cwt (100kg), far too heavy to be any use
> in a road vhicle but the aircar gave the only useful answer to that
> problem by making its air tank out of extremely tough,lightweight,
> modern plastics.
The model they and I mean TATA is based on is produced by MDI and
it's Forumla One design team, which means a lean , mean machine.
Plastic tanks is nothing new, as race courses have used plastic tanks
filled with foam for years. It stops gas from escaping the tanks
and as well sparks caused by tanks rupturing.
The great thing, is what I get from the papers I was given on the
subject, and the engine it's self and I see a future. I thought
this even before seeing the Utube videos of some other vehicles
at MDI.
I know those rooting up my opinion on the matter might bring up the
range of the vehicle, and ok 300km before a fill is good enough
for the largest percentage of motorists here to make it a great
comuter car. Also re-fill time. After that option galore to
how to refuel, that beat out the trip to the pumps.
> If anything has a chance, whether solar powered or topped up by a
> little lawnmower motor. some kind of light storage is needed.
Some might argue, that solar is expensive now, and "ok" but
as with engines there is advancement. Gues what the most reliable
engine today in the marina is? This is our area, so there
are diehards...but the wankle rotary engine ... the latest one
is what is going into some powerboats.
> That is what I keep my eye on. I don't know whar the Nissan Leaf
> uses, probably some kind of battery. Maybe some Japanese station
> can send us a schematic i 1000 7Plus parts (?)
>
> 73 - Ian, G0TEZ @ GB7CIP
>
> Message timed: 14:33 on 2012-May-31BST
> Message sent using WinPack-Telnet V6.80
>
> [End of Message #70884 from G0TEZ]
I hear local, that there is to be a display of these models, and
thus people there to answer questions, to which I have a few of
mine own ....Anyone want to ask a question? Don't mind taking
a log after this posting to address this and give it to the companys
displaying these cars.
Before they disappear I still want a VW "bug" <Fusta> or the
Benz smartcar ...which is smaller then the bug...but cute.
Today, the chariot passed it's emisson tests for a new plate
sticker, so we're mobile again.... <oh yeah>.
73 Pete VE3WBZ
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