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VE3WBZ > AUTO     03.12.11 02:40l 94 Lines 4007 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Subj: RE: KB2VXA's comments on A-car
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TO: AUTO @WW
FR: VE3WBZ

DT: Friday, December 2nd.,2011 @ 1827hrs EST

<< Quoting KB2VXA to AUTO @WW >>
> From         : KB2VXA         To           : AUTO  @WW
> Type/Status  : B$             Date/Time    : 02-Dec 16:48
> Bid          : 10217_VK6ZRT   Message #    : 57411
> Title        : Re: VE3WBZ > Tata
>
> I read an article on the Indian air car and cracked up when it came 
> around to the "green" angle. Whether onboard or not an air compressor 
> runs on electricity and electricity is still the same coal by wire it 
> ever was. Mini Cat is appropriate, it'll go purring along but will bite 
> you in the arse one day.

Hello Warren and I guess Bob, and others;

  TATA is but one of many wanting to get the technology from "MDI"
and it's owner Mr. Guy Negre and it seems family.   The other Air Cars
were also demonstrated in a connection suggested by MDI.

Whether the fuel cell that holds the compressed air is powered by
DC or whatever..I guess we will see.    Now if I have it at home
and hook it up to a compressor, I guess I fuel the car and only
pay the hydro bill for the few minutes to fill it.

> FYI, you'll never see a Tata regardless of the model name on US roads, 
> they fall far short of American safety standards. Out there in Packetland 
> you guys might want to look deeper and I for one would not be surprised 
> if Tata doesn't even come close to standards in your countries. Being a 
> rail fan I have numerous pictures of Indian State Railways trains with 
> "geckoes" plastered all over them, safety is something that just doesn't 
> have meaning.

 MDI is not only into this Air Car, but also has engineered items
for Formula One Racing.    As to whether or not it will be legal
in USA, that remains for it to be submitted to the Transportation
Department, as we've seen autos that are not allowed in Canada too
and one is a electric car, which made the news, but is not street
legal ...yet.

> Hmmm, I remember those toy steam engines and their fuel pellets.

You forgot what Bob's model ran on ...the stuff from his still
outback...alcohol.

As for the water running dry in the tank ...and running on air
well I don't think I would want to do that ... but then I didn't
have the still.  Now I know why Bob could run it on air... he
either breathed it ...or well he was too smashed to care.

> Those were the good old days when kids took their lumps and parents
> didn't go around sueing everybody in sight. Then we didn't have
> greedy personal injury lawyers gleaning the airwaves for tools either.

 Yep.   This is the period of the rights crowd and the minority
subjecting the majority to ...well a load of nonsence, that one day
will end in revolt.

> I suppose they could run equally well from a tank of compressed air
> but that would spoil the fun watching clouds of steam exhaust.

 Yeah .... and after the air?   Or is that from the still?   Oh well
I enjoyed the clouds of steam, and I enjoy my trips to the steam
society nearby ... and no ... I didn't tell'em about Bob's still
or his claim.

> Funny how we've come a long way from the Stanley Steamer to the
> Tata Mini Cat... but have we really? Nah, the Stanley had class!
>
> 73 de Warren
>
> Message timed by NIST: 16:43 on 2011-Dec-02 GMT
>
>  [End of Message #57411 from KB2VXA]

 We must thank the early days of steam contraptions that ran on the
roadways, and then tracks....and yes I remember elder family members
speak of the Stanley Steamer and the pitfalls, and early pitfalls
with cars, such as having to back up hills, or running boards floating
up when they went into a stream.    MDI on their site, have many
examples of test vehicles which are interesting developments to what
I was shown that was coming out in August 2012...but licenced to
TATA Motors of India to produce it.   There are also other countrys
that have approached MDI , but then too as Warren says....it they
be approved for driving in those countrys?

73 Pete VE3WBZ


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