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KB2VXA > FUEL 10.02.11 19:04l 50 Lines 2370 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Hi Barry and oil,
I see where you're coming from with the hydrogen but you have the process
all wrong. No matter where the electricity comes from in the first place
electrolysis isd just too expensive (not to mention wasteful and
inefficient) it simply will never happen. Pretty much like desalinization
providing drinking water to coastal cities only works in those fabulously
rich Arab lands where they can afford such nonsense. Hydrogen is
fractionated from petroleum gas along with propane, butane, ethane and
others, after all HYDROcarbon is the name of the game.
That being said and the myth of hydrogen being laid to rest (yeah, fat
chance convincing those greenie agitators) we turn our attention to bio
fuels. The process you describe fits ethanol to a T but somehow you
overlook its similarity to what petroleum goes through from well to end
user. The bottom line is if it were not cost effective we wouldn't waste
our time doing it and please be reminded that fuel is but a very small
part of the many uses for ethanol.
"Bio fuels need energy to fertilise the land on which they are grown."
Pardon me if I get a pretty good chuckle out of that one! No, I'm not
making fun of some sort of mistake, you just reminded me of a recent
discussion about pig exhaust. Just a small reminder though, the energy
really doesn't come from fertilizer but from sun light. wHEN YOU USE BIO
FUEL (crap, there went caps lock again) you're using solar energy but who
wuuda thunk?
'Scuse me, I have to drive a one ton vehicle with four fat people at
100mph down the motorway for 500mi or at least as far as I can get before
a cop pulls me over and gives me a speeding ticket. (;->)
Just to get slightly serious for a moment, either what you drive in the
UK is quite different from here or your figures are a bit skewed. Cars
have a fuel capacity tied to the MPG rating of the engine that comes out
to roughly 200mi per tank of fuel at highway speed, usually 60mph. Add
four fatties and kick it up to 100mph and you'll probably cut that by at
least half but in any case when you add the fine for speeding that comes
out to one VERY expensive tank of petrol!
73 de Warren
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