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You might find  this interesting and  following up further  as it is from the
horse's mouth so to speak.
Dimitry Orlov has been to peak oil and survived it.

73 Barry VK2AAB

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Back from the future collapse 
Posted: 24 Sep 2008 08:02 AM CDT
With his book "Reinventing Collapse", Dmitry Orlov reports to us from a 
collapse that he has actually experienced with the fall of the Soviet Union. 
Russia's past is our future and Orlov's book is a time machine to there. 
Back in the mid 1990s, during the darkest time of the Russian economic crisis, 
I was often in Russia. Once, I came out of a train station in Moscow to face 
faced a long line of people standing along the wall of the building. Each one 
had something on sale in his or her hands: a pair of shoes, a shirt, a bottle 
of vodka, or something like that. 
After more than a decade, I still remember that scene. In any town, it is easy 
to see wretched people; especially rich cities seem to have more than the 
average share of beggars. But that line in Moscow was something different. 
These people were not bums coming out of the local skid row. They were ordinary 
Russians, the kind of people you saw normally taking the subway every morning 
to go to work; spending their time in front of a computer screen in an office; 
and, in the evening, back to the subway to go back home to watch TV. And now 
they had to stand on a line in front of the train station selling an old shirt 
of theirs. And it wasn't just a question of people having to sell their old 
shoes; Russia was in shambles: no money, no salaries, empty shops, little food. 
At that time, I was completely baffled; what the hell was going on? The 
Russians themselves couldn't understand. Mostly, there was some vague talk that 
all the problems could be solved by adopting free market and democracy; that 
was being tried, but it didn't seem to help.
What had happened became clear to me only much later, when I understood that, 
in Russia, I was looking to my own future. It was Douglas Reynolds, American 
economist, who explained it to me when he came to my university and he gave a 
talk on the Soviet collapse. The Soviet Union had not collapsed because it 
lacked democracy or free markets, even though, surely, the bloated bureaucracy 
and the mad military expenses had helped. It had collapsed because of peak oil. 
Soviet Oil production had peaked in 1987, together with the crash of oil prices 
in the world market. Without the revenue coming from oil exports, the Soviet 
Union simply went bankrupt and disappeared.
Later on, things changed again. Having reduced its military expenses and having 
cut on bureaucracy, Russia could invest considerable resources in upgrading the 
old oil fields. With oil production picking up again, the Russian economy 
started to recover. In Moscow, money came back to the pockets of ordinary 
people, restaurants opened, the shops started selling goods again and you 
wouldn't see any more lines of people selling old shoes in front of the train 
station.
Today, the dark years of the Russian economic collapse seem to be almost 
forgotten. Yet, it is a story that can still teach us something. If the 
collapse was a consequence of the Soviet peak oil, it was basically 
unavoidable. Then, it is unavoidable also for the whole world, as the global 
peak oil is approaching. Right now, in September of 2008, the turmoil that is 
taking place in the financial markets may be the first signs of the impending 
global collapse.
Several people have recognized the consequences of peak oil and have tried to 
imagine the future worldwide collapse. Among many others, Howard Kunstler has 
told us of the long emergency; Jay Hanson saw the global "dieoff" and Richard 
Duncan gave us the "Olduvai scenario", that is the return to stone age. But 
none of those who are talking about collapse have actually lived through a real 
one. Except one: Dmitry Orlov. Born and raised in Russia, Orlov reports to us 
in his book "Reinventing Collapse" his view of someone who has really been 
there, as opposed to that of someone who has just heard of it.
The basic thesis of "Reinventing Collapse" is that the Soviet Union and the 
United States are similar organizations that are following identical paths, 
although shifted in time of a few decades. Sure, there were many obvious 
differences in the way things were managed in the two superpowers. But the 
bottom line was that they were two empires whose power was based on mineral 
resources - mainly crude oil. With the local peak oil in 1987, the Soviet Union 
had to close shop and disappear. The US saw its national peak oil in 1970, but 
managed to keep running by taking control of the Middle Eastern oil. But that 
was just postponing the unavoidable. The destinies of the two countries are the 
same and now it is time for the US, and the Western World, to experience 
collapse.
The book by Orlov is impressive in its details and its deep insight. I found it 
completely convincing on the basis of my own experience in Russia and Ukraine 
during the years of the collapse. The book is like a time machine, with Orlov 
coming back from the future and telling you all the details of it; including 
what you are going to eat, how you are going to take a shower, how you'll find 
to find shelter and how to travel. That is, of course, if you'll be able to do 
that; all these things are not at all granted during a collapse. But Orlov 
gives you plenty of useful tips on how to survive and even be - moderately - 
happy. Look at what is around you and ask yourself, "will it survive the 
collapse?" If it won't; then start thinking how you can do without it. Then, be 
flexible and try to adapt. If you know what to expect, at least you won't 
suffer of depression.
One last comment about this book is relevant to the members of the Western 
"peak oil movement". According to Orlov, there was something similar in the 
Soviet Union. It was a clandestine movement which, nevertheless, managed to 
gain a good understanding of what was going to happen and to publish it in the 
"samizdats", home printed documents; the only way to bypass the official 
information circle before the internet era. Those people got everything right 
but, of course, they were ignored. After the collapse, they were ignored as 
well. In a world where collapse had already occurred, there was no more 
interest in knowing exactly why it had occurred. So, if you are in the peak oil 
movement, don't worry too much. Whatever you do or say, it won't change a 
thing. So, take it easy!
Gail the Actuary has also reviewed Orlov's book on The Oil Drum . Note also 
Dmitry Orlov's blog "ClubOrlov" . You can find Orlov's book here Reinventing 
collapse 
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/




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