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G7SRI > CARS 09.07.08 13:25l 67 Lines 2976 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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[T:1036. D:09/07/08 #:0496 N:Geoff B:GB7NND {IO93JG, Clowne}]
Chinese Proverb! Man who run behind car get exhausted.
from Harry, M1BYT
> That was me - Brown's gas or HHO.
>
> I was struggling to understand how energy could be multiplied or created > by the process, more
energy produced than goes into the creation of the > gas.
> There is no reason why an engine cannot be run on it, the problem is
> where do you get the electrical energy from to create the gas.
Thanks Harry, I couldn't remember who had sent out the original and as pc
it was on had to be replaced, I lost the archived messages.
Having always had an interest in motor vehicles and spent many years as a
mechanic, I spoke about the above with a fellow enthusiast. (M3HMQ is a
wizard with old Landrovers) We considered a few possibilities, the
favourite one was to initialy start the vehicles engine on petrol,
assuming it's a petrol engine of course, and then use a system similar to
the LPG setup to switch over to gas once enough had been generated by the
electrical system, It would mean that a quite large, heavy duty battery
would be required, or probably as many as four batteries in parallel to
give the required amperes at a constant rate. Also, a high capacity
alternator would be needed to keep the battery float charged. It's not (in
theory at least) difficult to achieve with a landrover as suitable
batteries and alternators are readily available, but we concluded that for
the majority of smaller vehicles it would not be very practical to do the
conversion, largely due to space restrictions and the problem of the
modern, on-board computer systems needing to be modified.
As Clive, M3HMQ and myself are both old farts as far as modern motors are
concerned, we didn't look to much at the possibilities with modern
computerised cars. I don't think the owner of the workshop Clive leases
would be very happy about us experimenting with the idea, but we have no
doubt that it is possible to adapt a vehicle to run that way.
Incidently, as we are not scientists and are not sure of the 'properties
of HHO' it was decided that if at some stage we get the chance to put it
to the test, it will be a petrol engine used for the purpose as we're not
sure if HHO will ignite under compression or if it would require a
permenantly hot 'glow plug'.
I like the idea of running a car on water though and the only exhaust
being water also. The thing is, if it is possible, why has nobody actualy
done it yet. Wouldn't it be fun to see the price of other fuels fall, Oh
the poor old oil companies, if anyone actualy makes it practical.
The goverment would soon be putting massive taxes on water or cars running
that way though eh!
73 from Geoff, G7SRI @ GB7NND.#23.GBR.EU
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Yes Folks, real RF energy used here.
Don't look back, the lemmings are gaining on you.
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