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SuB: VK4PKT <loosing it
Hello Ari.
I have posted this back to you by the same way which it was received in
your continued addressing of me which is at @WW so its coming to you by
the same means BULLETINE@WW.
Could you tell me please why are you still name calling in that when
you are addressing " Warren " you have still been using my name also?.
Why is that !.
As since the 17-June-2003 which was the first and only time I have addressed
you at all to which I have enclosed a copy of that my address back to you
concerning your response bulletin to my posting to which as far as I can see
with the quality of what you have been saying is that its your own inability
to have read these postings correctly.
As well as that is on a web site concerning the posting about the fact about
The First Australian Winlinks 2000 (PMBO) system to be on line in Australia.
Along with this as well is the fact that IRLP system is/has been on the
i-link and Echolink system for the past 2 years to which you have falled
to reconised in thats been posted as well as I see you have stated that you
have worked at QNews too now I can understand clearly the mileage you are
trying to obtain out of these matters.
How ever all of which I find your follow up postings on these matters some
what out of step with these facts at hand which have been clearly posted on
a web sites by Winlinks 2000.
As well as having been Broadcast by the Wireless Institute of Australia and
have been written facts as posted by The Australian Communications Authority
to which approval on these matter have been stated by this Authority and as
you know The Australian Communications Authority is the Authority here in
Australia I would have at least thought you would have known that.
But this you have seem to have not read to which now we have been putting
up with your outright abuse of persons as well as your Uneducated Comments
on these matters that have been stated to which is just outright stupidity
on your part of course after a published fact.
Please do not include me in any further flaming that you may want to undertake
on any of these matters as they have been clearly posted by the Authority in
each matter of point to which I have draw attention to these matters by my
posting of these finding for the betterment of all Australian Amateurs in
where to look and read for themselfs about all these facts to which perhaps
you should also do.
To which if you are aggrieved by such statements done by the Authority in
these matters I would then ask you to take these matters up with them and
refrain from just Flaming Off as you are pulling down whats is left of the
which is usually a high standard of Australian Sysops to which it has to be
noted that it is Australian Sysops like yourself that has been going off
their tree concerning these facts.
I am sure how ever that the Authority in these matters would indeed be
interested in your points of Authoritoralism as well as points of view in
all these matters concerning their rulings on these subjects and even perhaps
to any of the "legalities" that you feel you would like to raise with them
concerning their Authority in these their rulings.
As it would only be an idiot like yourself that would address some one
that is not present in your presents when you are addressing them but
there again perhaps this is your own ego trip it trying to salvage some
thing of what is left of QNews and The Wireless Institute of Australia
reputation which is not much left since your own admission of being part of
QNews.
Perhaps Ari that is what is meant as losing it !.
No insult intended sir, just an eye opener.
Without Prejudice.
Peter Giles VK8PDG
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>From: VK4PKT@VK4WIE.#BNE.QLD.AUS.OC
>To : INFO@WW
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>
>Only two callsigns on the hold list at this BBS Warren. Peter's and yours.
>Could be a moral to that if you look hard enough I guess.
>
>Peter's because I simply am not sure whether what he proposes is legal or
>not so I keep a weather eye out and play it safe while it's thrashed out.
>Hell, he can post the same message as often as he pleases. I tire of it
>myself sometimes sure but it's a free world, just don't read em if it
>bothers you.
>
>Yours because although I more often than not agree with your position on
>issues you just seem to get so excited with everything that you sometimes
>(in my view) drift away from the issue in favour of toasting the message
>poster in question.
>
>By all means, disagree all you want and SAY so but a touch less of the
>acerbic tone would be so much nicer. It IS possible that the original
>poster of the message did so in all the good faith and best intention in
>the world. In that case shouldn't they be treated a little more gently in
>some cases? I'm not suggesting you sit still for outright abuse or
>stupidity of course.
>
>Your bulletins often read very much like those I was posting some four
>years ago in tone. I admit it, after a number of years SysOping and
>serving to the best of my (very) limited ability with the W.I.A.Q. (The
>state division of the Australian Amateur Radio representative body) I was
>stale and cranky. So I simply let my licence lapse and took four years off
>only renewing 2 weeks ago. Perhaps a break might do your perspective some
>good? Not suggesting that you make it a 4 year break of course. After all,
>you're not half as cranky a S.O.B. as I was in 99.....still ;0)
>
>So now we see I guess if you can graciously take on board an opinion like
>the (many many) ones that you offer up to others on their deportment on
>Amateur Radio or whether we're going to be treated to another "Re:VK4PKT>
>(enter acerbic title here)" bulletin in return.
>
>Yours in Amateur Radio
>Ari Laver
>
>73 - Ari, VK4PKT @ VK4WIE-1
>
>ax25 :- vk4pkt@vk4wie.#bne.qld.aus.oc
>email :- vk4pkt@optusnet.com.au
>
>Message timed: 15:01 on 2003-Jun-17
>
Hello Ari.
I am not proposing nothing ..its already here if you are taking about
Echolink and Winlinks 2000 (PMBO) which are very " legal " indeed.
Please refer to the following web site for Australia's first Winlinks 2000
PMBO.
http://winlink.org/
http://winlink.org/stations.htm
ie, >Australia VK8HF - John in Darwin
Also we all know of the " VOIP " systems whic is " legal " in Australia also
so is JNOS,TNOS, AMPr Net, AMSAT, and NEXUS to which has been around some 30
years now as here in Australia it was the way that it had to be sent to an
other BBS which can handle that traffic.
But by all means do what you are doing if you are not sure than that ok in
what your doing as you see it to be right I have no problem with that at all.
But when you do find out what I have said to be true will you apologies to me
for having done what you are doing in blocking me as most of the packet
system world wide will tell you that I am correct ...it just a lot have
forgoten the use of it.
But not problem be sure by all means thats the right thing to do .
Best Regards
Peter VK8PDG.
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