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Subj: Re: Packet Radio 'On-air' site?
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Hi Dave.
I'm a bit confused with your question. Do you want to have 'web'
pages viewable via Packet Radio, or do you want to view bulletins
from a 'web' page from the BBS?
If you want to have 'web' pages viewable via Packet Radio, it is
not too difficult. I have this working with JNOS as server, where
the page can be on the same system running the radio-ports, or via
ethernet on a 2nd system as I have it running here.
As I'm using JNOS running on DR-DOS with two OptoSCC-cards for the
radio-ports, I did move the HTTP-server to a 2nd machine, as all
processes, and certainly the SCC-driver, requires memory.
Basically, if you go to www.pe1biv.net, you are on that Packet Radio
machine with the generic name http.pe1biv (.ampr.org).
It makes no difference how you reach the HTTP-server, via Radio or
via the Internet.
Now, the viewer is a different problem, as you will need a system
that can access a Radio-port.
I guess if you would run AGW on Windooze, you should be able to have
all TCP/IP clients, like IE, Firefox and whichever, to access a TNC
or soundcard driver as if it is a modem. But, I have never tried this.
Baycom a few years ago did bring a USB-modem on the market, but I
guess Baycom has discontinued all Packet Radio equipment.
But, with the correct driver, this also should enable all clients
on Windooze to access the USB-modem and so a Radio-port.
Another option would probably to use Linux and have an SCC-card or
a TNC connected, with Firefox or any other browser on Linux you
should be able to access the radio-ports.
How do I run this. Quite simple. I have my JNOS Packet Radio system
set up as a router/node and my Windooze network is connected to
the Packet network (ethernet).
So, internally my IE/Firefox just uses the thernet to connect to
http.pe1biv, but via the JNOS Radio system I can also connect to
a HTTP-server that has a radio-port, the system of a friend, or the
system we run at the local radio-club.
So, yest, this completely works.
The problems that arise are timing. As Packet Radio has a lot more
delay than getting a packet via the Internet, the browsers quite
easily go in time-out.
The first few pages on my HTTP-server are absolutely minimalistic
design with all manually coded HTML, so the code is not more than
absolutely nessesary to build the page. OK, the GIF is probably
in that concept overdone, though I guess that is also less than 2k.
With this page, it works with 1k2, but that is really all you can
say about it. If you really want to experiment with it, I guess
4k8 or even 9k6 should be the minimum speed you should use.
Again, the pages should be coded in neat HTML, so don't use something
like *rontpage or worse.
JNOS is only usefull as HTML-server for plain HTML, though it has
some scripting for getting a counter, etc.
For running PERL, PHP and other fancy stuff, you would need to run
a HTTP-server on Linux. However, there will be people that now
want to say that you also can use Windooze server....
Well, M$ doesn't even trust their Windooze server to run their own
pages on the Internet: they use Linux server.....
Rgs, 73, Angela
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