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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 00 22:35:31 MET
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From: pa2aga@pe1mvx.ampr.org
To: hd_broadcast@pa2aga.ampr.org
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> (4) Amateur service. A radiocommunication service for the purpose of
> self-training, intercommunication and technical investigations carried out
> by amateurs, that is, duly authorized persons interested in radio technique
> solely with a personal aim and without pecuniary interest.
>
> Now you've heard of it.
Where's the part that restricts an Amateur from interfacing it to another
communications system (e.g., a modem, a network, etc)?
Made it all up didn't you?
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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 05:41:45 GMT
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: internet repeater linking
"J. Hoffa" <J.Hoffa@underground.net> wrote in message
news:srm4ncomct642@corp.supernews.com...
> > The hobby is about radios, not telephones.
>
> Where does it say that? Never heard of such an entry in all of
> the CFR.
PART 97--AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE
Subpart A--General Provisions
S 97.3 Definitions.
(a) The definitions of terms used in Part 97 are:
(4) Amateur service. A radiocommunication service for the purpose of
self-training, intercommunication and technical investigations carried out
by amateurs, that is, duly authorized persons interested in radio technique
solely with a personal aim and without pecuniary interest.
Now you've heard of it.
--
... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 01:45:28 -0500
From: "J. Hoffa" <J.Hoffa@underground.net>
Subject: internet repeater linking
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"Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net> wrote
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> PART 97--AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE
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> Now you've heard of it.
Let me highlight what you just sent:
self-training, intercommunication and technical investigations
Now you know, fat boy...
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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 11:00:01 +0300
From: Paul Keinanen <keinanen@sci.fi>
Subject: internet repeater linking
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 05:41:45 GMT, "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
wrote:
>PART 97--AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE
>Subpart A--General Provisions
>S 97.3 Definitions.
> (a) The definitions of terms used in Part 97 are:
> (4) Amateur service. A radiocommunication service for the purpose of
>self-training, intercommunication and technical investigations carried out
>by amateurs, that is, duly authorized persons interested in radio technique
>solely with a personal aim and without pecuniary interest.
When exactly is the following communication not a radio communication
service ? In all the following examples there is at least two
transceivers communicating with each other using frequencies assigned
to amateur service and obeying to the rules for amateur radio
communications.
1) A battery powered HT with attached rubber duck antenna and built in
speaker. This is a truly wireless case :-).
2) A transceiver with a built in antenna and external microphone and
headphones (or a connection to a PC for RTTY/PSK31).
3) A transceiver with cordless (IR or RF) headphones and a cordless
microphone.
4) An indoor transceiver with a coaxial cable to an antenna on a
tower.
5) A tower mounted transceiver (e.g. Gunnplexer) with baseband audio
cabling down to the shack.
6) An transceiver mounted in the attic of an apartment building with
external antenna and audio connection down to the apartment using
spare pairs in the apartment building internal telephone network to
carry the audio down to the apartment of the operator.
7) The transceiver is at the top of a high building and the operator
is connected to it from an other building using a telephone pair
leased from the local telephone company.
8) The same as in the previous case, but the connection is over a
virtual circuit over internet.
In all cases the transceiver is used to communicate with other amateur
radio transceivers. In which case is the communication not a radio
communication service ?
Paul OH3LWR
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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 08:21:30 GMT
From: nomail@rob.knoware.nl (Rob Janssen)
Subject: internet repeater linking
Paul Keinanen <keinanen@sci.fi> wrote:
>When exactly is the following communication not a radio communication
>service ? In all the following examples there is at least two
>transceivers communicating with each other using frequencies assigned
>to amateur service and obeying to the rules for amateur radio
>communications.
>1) A battery powered HT with attached rubber duck antenna and built in
>speaker. This is a truly wireless case :-).
>2) A transceiver with a built in antenna and external microphone and
>headphones (or a connection to a PC for RTTY/PSK31).
>3) A transceiver with cordless (IR or RF) headphones and a cordless
>microphone.
>4) An indoor transceiver with a coaxial cable to an antenna on a
>tower.
>5) A tower mounted transceiver (e.g. Gunnplexer) with baseband audio
>cabling down to the shack.
>6) An transceiver mounted in the attic of an apartment building with
>external antenna and audio connection down to the apartment using
>spare pairs in the apartment building internal telephone network to
>carry the audio down to the apartment of the operator.
To be continued in digest: hd_2000_247D
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