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Ham-Digital Digest Wed, 2 Aug 2000 Volume 2000 : Issue 208
Today's Topics:
Free place to post NYC Jobs & Real Estate Listings!
It's kind of a shame... (5 msgs)
MIXWDEMO (32)
Small TNC? (2 msgs)
Software ???? (3 msgs)
Timewave DSP-599zx Firmware Upgrade
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Date: 1 Aug 00 22:04:55 GMT
From: Jimmy@PeoplesList.COM (Minidisco)
Subject: Free place to post NYC Jobs & Real Estate Listings!
Hi!
I'm writing to let you know that you can post NYC real estate listings and
jobs on our site for FREE! Please go to http://www.PeoplesList.com and
click the ADD A LISTING BUTTON.
PeoplesList is a non-commericial online community posting site that offers
real estate listings, job listings, personals, community postings and a
whole lot of other stuff, all at no cost, and with no advertising banners.
Please feel free to post as often as you like, and email us if you have any
questions!
Sincerely,
Gavin, Jimmy, & Paul
The PeopesList People
People@PeoplesList.com
"List Free or Die!"
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 04:48:39 -0600
From: kenny@kacweb.com (Kenny A. Chaffin)
Subject: It's kind of a shame...
In article <Vpwh5.8101$I43.25864@news1.eburwd1.vic.optushome.com.au>,
hamish@cloud.net.au says...
> In rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Kenny A. Chaffin <kenny@kacweb.com> wrote:
> > The purpose of ham radio is not to grow and have fun and stay alive. The
> > purpose is for the nation to have a trained set of knowledgable radio
> > enthusiasts that could be drawn upon in case of national emergency.
>
> Not in my country -- in Australia it is for experimentation.
>
> From http://www.aca.gov.au/publications/info/amateur.htm:
>
> "What is an Amateur licence?
>
> An Amateur licence is issued to authorise a station that:
> * is operated for the purposes of self-training in radiocommunications,
> intercommunication using radiocommunications and technical
> investigation into radiocommunications by persons who do
> so solely with a personal aim, and who have no pecuniary interest in
> the outcome of the operations of the station;
> * is operated on amateur frequencies or amateur frequency bands; and
> * may participate in the amateur-satellite service.
>
> The Amateur Service is designed primarily to facilitate hobby
> radiocommunications and for technical experimentation and operates
> on specified frequency bands. Amateur radio operators communicate via
> a number of transmission modes including, but not limited to,
> morse code, telephony and data. "
>
>
>
> 73,
> Hamish
> --
> Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <hamish@debian.org> <hamish@cloud.net.au>
>
Apologies for being US-Centric. I was speaking of the U.S. Amateur Rules
and Regs...
Best Wishes,
KAC
WB0E
--
KAC Website Design
Custom Programming, Web Design, and Graphics
kenny@kacweb.com - http://www.kacweb.com
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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 09:05:57 GMT
From: hamish@cloud.net.au (Hamish Moffatt VK3SB)
Subject: It's kind of a shame...
In rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Kenny A. Chaffin <kenny@kacweb.com> wrote:
> The purpose of ham radio is not to grow and have fun and stay alive. The
> purpose is for the nation to have a trained set of knowledgable radio
> enthusiasts that could be drawn upon in case of national emergency.
Not in my country -- in Australia it is for experimentation.
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 11:00:20 -0400
From: "Ed Hare, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.net>
Subject: It's kind of a shame...
Hank Oredson <horedson@att.net> wrote:
> It was simply that proficiency in morse code is not very difficult.
For you, Hank. I have seen others struggle for a long time to get up to 5
wpm and pass the test.
Consider, too that when you and I learned the code, we started at 5 wpm and
had PLENTY of people to talk to, letting us get to a higher speed
"naturally." That is not really true today; a ham licensed at 5 wpm does
not have the same QSO opportunities that we had, so the only practical way
to get from 5 to 13 wpm is by listening to W1AW or using one of the
code-practice softwares. It was NOT a natural for me; it took me about 8
months of 2-3 hours on-the-air operating every day to get to 13 wpm. If the
only way I could have done it was by code-practice tapes, I would NOT have
gone on to become a proficient CW op.
Consider too that when we were struggling at the 10 wpm barrier, we could
tune the shortwave bands and hear lots of Morse CW sigs in actual use. I
understood WHY I was being asked to learn this Morse thing; it was relevant
to the radio technology of the day. When someone tunes the SW bands today,
it is not at all likely that they will hear a Morse signal, so they do not
get that positive reinforcement that we did.
What was easy and natural to us in 1960 is not as easy and natural in 2000,
because many of the factors that made it so easy no longer exist. If it
looks different to the newcomers of today than it did to us, it is because
it IS different.
Now, from 13 to 20 wpm IS a bit easier; there are plenty of stations one can
work at 13, 15, 18 and then 20 wpm. And you are right, those contests can
be an excellent on-the-air code practice.
73,
Ed Hare, W1RFI
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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 19:42:53 +0930
From: Mark Little <mark@brigadoon.apana.org.au>
Subject: It's kind of a shame...
Hamish Moffatt VK3SB wrote:
>
> In rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Kenny A. Chaffin <kenny@kacweb.com> wrote:
> > The purpose of ham radio is not to grow and have fun and stay alive. The
> > purpose is for the nation to have a trained set of knowledgable radio
> > enthusiasts that could be drawn upon in case of national emergency.
>
> Not in my country -- in Australia it is for experimentation.
For all practical purposes, either definition of purpose is essentially
To be continued in digest: hd_2000_208B
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