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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 00 23:11:25 MET
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> >would have made an entry level license available for digital modes or
> >general voice and restricted CW on HF, like a low-code tech exam with
> >expanded privleges and a bit less theory.
> >
> >Instead, the motive was to sell radios and other goods. That meant an
> >automatic upgrade was the best means to the end goal.
> >
> >What I dislike about the restructing is they actually made getting
> >into the hobby no better....they actually made it worse. The main
> >function seems to be lowering the bar for all classes of license, and
> >lowering it the most for the highest classes.
> >
> >I understand that from Kenwood's view. They are teetering on the edge,
> >and wanted to sell radios to stay in business. They tried to sell
> >radios at truckstops, but the hams stopped that so they needed another
The purpose of ham radio is not to grow and have fun and stay alive. The
purpose is for the nation to have a trained set of knowledgable radio
enthusiasts that could be drawn upon in case of national emergency.
It could be that the nature of the trained enthusiasts needed no longer
makes sense in the modern world. Current commercial and military
application of radio is quite technical and complex. Perhaps the hobby
should change to keep pace with it --- or maybe it should die.
KAC
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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 01:17:29 -0700
From: "Michael Kellogg" <Michael@kelloggs.org>
Subject: It's kind of a shame...
Respectfully, I think you're missing the point. It's all well and good that
you had to walk through the snow to school every day, 2 miles, uphill, years
ago. But today, there's a faster route to that school where we don't have
to go uphill and the snow plows keep the roads clear. Should we keep taking
your route anyway?
Morse used to be the only way radio op's could communicate. Working at
25-35+ wpm was a legitimate skill every radio op needed to have. However,
in 2000, it has become fairly obsolete. Even the Coast Guard quit listening
for it years ago. I hate to say it, but it seems little more than an
enjoyable, challenging, ham pasttime any more. Who else besides us is using
it?
A viable means of communication? Definitely. A good thing to learn?
Probably. It shows dedication to the hobby and weeds out casual candidates
who would otherwise turn ham radio into CB. A necessity for radio
operation? Not any more. Should it be included on the test? Probably not.
How does Morse code advance the radio art these days?
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Michael Kellogg, KG6CLC
www.qsl.net/kg6clc
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> Ed, I think you are putting the bar way too low.
>
> As a kid in high school, I found it easy to get to 25 wpm, and not all
that
> hard to get to 35 wpm. If ya wanna do it, ya spend the time and learn it.
> Running liason between traffic nets will get that speed right up there ...
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Date: 30 Jul 2000 16:41:47 GMT
From: johnl84238@aol.com (JOHNL84238)
Subject: PK232 Proms
They do all support packet....problem is I
have a PK232 with NO eproms. I just want
to find a back rev set to try it out and see if it works and to see what is
happening on
packet. Thanks for the reply.
-John
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Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:07:37 GMT
From: kf4sir@earthlink.net (Dale Coleman)
Subject: PSK31 message relay test
Hi all, Dale KF4SIR will be testing sending messages using PSK31.
The first test of using PSK31 to relay e-mail messages will run on
August 12, 00 starting at: 12:00Z and running to 14:00Z using the
normal BPSK mode then from 14:00Z to 15:00Z using the QPSK mode.
Weather permitting ( I live in thunder storm alley) - I will try and
run a second session August 13 (UTC) from 00:00Z to 01:00Z using QPSK
mode then from 01:00Z to 03:00Z using BPSK.
Should be interesting to see how the QPSK mode does.
In a effort to prevent QRM on the normal QSO frequency, will be
running contest style auto CQ on 14.090Mz + 1500Hz or so. Look down
if frequency is busy.
Will only be testing the outbound relay leg at this time. So please
stop by if you can, you will just have to copy one short message then
be on your way.
For more information please see:
http://psk31relay.net
Thanks, Dale
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Dale Coleman
kf4sir@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~kf4sir/
(>: 6unp sI 86 smopuIM
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Date: 31 Jul 2000 04:52:13 GMT
From: dgf@netcom.com (David Feldman)
Subject: Small TNC?
Looking for the smallest possible TNC; prefer something that will
offer RS-232 interface and run off battery. Failing that one of
those tigertronics BAYPAC things might work? What's currently
available?
73 Dave WB0GAZ dgf@netcom.com
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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:03:14 GMT
From: "Casey \(KC\)" <casey@techie.com>
Subject: Small TNC?
Hi David,
The "tigertronics BAYPAC things" work just great for packet. If even used
it on an old 8088 laptop, floppy drive only with DOS packet software. You
can't beat it for size and that it requires no additional power supply. Just
plug it into your serial port. They even work great with the right windows
software, despite what Tigertronics says on their web site. I used one for
over a year running Winpack. There is lots of info on making it work on
internet.
I have the Tigertronics BP-2M multi-mode unit. I never had much success on
HF using Hamcom, the most recommended program. I almost gave up on HF modes
until I found a "freeware" program called Intercom by PA3BYZ, which works
very well for CW, RTTY, ASCII, SITOR FEC, FELDHELL, (RX only) SITOR, ARQ &
PSK. (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/pa3byz/rttymade.htm)
73... Ken
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"David Feldman" <dgf@netcom.com> wrote in message
news:8m30lt$ekp$1@slb7.atl.mindspring.net...
> Looking for the smallest possible TNC; prefer something that will
> offer RS-232 interface and run off battery. Failing that one of
> those tigertronics BAYPAC things might work? What's currently
> available?
>
> 73 Dave WB0GAZ dgf@netcom.com
>
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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:23:32 GMT
From: nomail@rob.knoware.nl (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Small TNC?
David Feldman <dgf@netcom.com> wrote:
>Looking for the smallest possible TNC; prefer something that will
>offer RS-232 interface and run off battery. Failing that one of
>those tigertronics BAYPAC things might work? What's currently
>available?
It depends on what you need. A real TNC, or a MODEM that can be used
to do packet while connected to a PC RS232 interface. The latter can be
considerably simpler, as it does not need to contain a CPU etc.
Rob
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