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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 00 14:26:28 MET

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From: pa2aga@pe1mvx.ampr.org
To: hd_broadcast@pa2aga.ampr.org
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> communications system and I thought you responded by telling her that
> you can do it with a spark transmitter and a crystal detector. I say
> that's not "modern digital communications" but I agree that it is
> "simplicity" and it doesn't depend upon any man-made infrastructure.
> 
> Its "efficiency" depends entirely upon what kind and how much data you
> want to transfer. As I said, it's not very "efficient" if you need to
> transfer a 1 MB exe file. If what you need to do is transmit an "SOS"
> from a lifeboat then it'll suit you quite well (assuming there's still
> someone on the other end who can receive your SOS :-) ). If you enjoy
> chatting with another person using Morse then it'll also suit you
> quite well. No need to pretend that CW is modern digital
> communications - CW can stand quite well on its own for its simplicity
> and personal enjoyment.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
That's why you need error correction protocol.

KAC
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Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:45:54 GMT
From: hamish@cloud.net.au (Hamish Moffatt VK3SB)
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital

In rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Peter O. Brackett <ab4bc@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
> One might ask how much the addition of 10 million transistors has really
> bought us?

Faster, more reliable communication.


Regards
Hamish
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Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 21:29:00 -0700
From: TimG <fewtchNOfeSPAM@yahoo.com.invalid>
Subject: FS: Hamcom/JVFAX Demodulator with Software

For Sale:

Brand new Pervisell, Inc. Hamcom/JVFAX-compatible serial demodulator.
Includes the demodulator (comparator), 25 to 9-pin serial port
adapter, 25-foot extension cable with an RCA plug on the end for
line-level audio output from a receiver or transceiver (you can change
this), and *REGISTERED* Radioraft software (latest version) on
diskette with registration codes.  You just supply the receiver and
computer! (486 or better).

You can check out Radioraft software at this website:

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Asking $50.00 (for the whole package including registered software)
shipped anywhere in the continental U.S. (or best offer).  I prefer
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If interested please contact core@zipcon.net before July 30, 2000.  No
ridiculously low offers, please (this stuff cost me well over 80
bucks).  Thanks.


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Date: 18 Jul 2000 07:50:02 GMT
From: jeffreyh@Hawaii.Edu (Jeffrey Herman)
Subject: Guide to the rec.radio Newsgroups

Archive-name: radio/personal-intro

This message describes the rec.radio.amateur.*, rec.radio.cb,
rec.radio.info, and rec.radio.swap newsgroups, as well as their Internet
mailing list counterparts and complements. It is intended to serve as a
guide for the new reader on what to find where. Questions and comments may
be directed to Jeffrey Herman, KH6O, jeffreyh@hawaii.edu, or Paul
Schleck, K3FU, pschleck@novia.net.

 This message was last changed on 14 March, 1998.

History
=======

Way back when, before there was a Usenet, the Internet hosted a mailing list
for hams, called (appropriately enough) INFO-HAMS. Ham radio discussions
were held on the mailing list, and sent to the mailboxes of those who had
signed up for it. When the Usenet software was created, and net news as we
now know it was developed, a newsgroup was created for hams: net.ham-radio.
The mailing list and the newsgroup were gatewayed together, eventually.

Over the years, as the net grew, the volume of discussion became
progressively higher. First one by one, and then as part of two
reorganizations, what was once one group became many. In the process,
developments elsewhere on the net were reflected in the groups as they were
created, most notably the change to place all of the ham radio groups in one
hierarchy.

The collection of newsgroups continues to grow as more people join the net,
and as more topics of discussion gain volume, I expect to see more groups be
created as well. This follows what is happening on the rest of the net.

Nearly all of the radio newsgroups have corresponding mailing lists, the
notable exception being rec.radio.swap. There are also a few mailing lists
that don't have newsgroups.

The Current Groups
==================

It's important to post messages to the group that's appropriate for them,
and not to the groups that aren't. The whole idea of having different
newsgroups is so that folks who aren't interested in, say, homebrewing,
don't have to wade through messages about homebrewing on the way to read
about Field Day. Posting appropriately is just good etiquette.

The rec.radio.amateur.misc group is the catchall. It is what rec.ham-radio
was renamed to during the first major reorganization. Any amateur radio-
related  message that's not more appropriate in one of the other groups
belongs here, from contesting to DX to ragchewing on VHF to information on
becoming a ham.

The group rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc is for discussions related to
(surprise!) digital amateur radio. This doesn't have to be the common
two-meter AX.25 variety of packet radio, either; some of the most
knowledgeable folks in radio digital communications can be found here, and
anything in the general area is welcome. The name was changed to emphasize
this, and to encourage discussion not only of other text-based digital
modes, such as AMTOR, RTTY, and Clover, but things like digital voice and


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