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You are right again.
> We're out here waiting for the beef . . .
Like a bunch of little old Clara Pellers yelling; "WHERE'S THE BEEF?!"
That WAS a good ad. Problem was, most people were so busy laughing at
the old lady, they couldn't remember what burger chain the ad was for.
> w3rv
Stewart - N0MHS
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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 11:26:13 -0500
From: "Steve Sampson" <ssampson@usa-site.net>
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
"Brian Kelly" wrote
>
> I can work the world without a tower or a phone line or any servers, I
> just toss any wire up into a tree and I'm up and running globally.
Yes, that will solve all of the problems. You are so kind to share your
most original ideas with the group.
> It's all mindless rhetoric.
Amen to that. This whole newsgroup is mindless rhetoric squared.
> w3rv
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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 17:00:55 GMT
From: horseshoestew@my-deja.com
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
In article <8ksgi6$vqf$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>,
"Peter O. Brackett" <ab4bc@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Most modern up to date technologists wouldn't know how to put
together a
> workable communications system on a life raft, mountain pass, desert
island,
> or whatever... without 10 million transistors and 100 MB of code... A
> really knowledgeable person who understands how things work at a
basic lever
> could do that with a few pieces of readily available junk. Lifeboat
hand
> cranked radios...
Did you stock up on "essentials" before Y2K? I bet you've got a few
extra cans of tuna fish in your cabinets! Look - going around
all "scart" of modern technology is NO WAY TO LIVE.
Besides, you are being silly - even at your so-called "basic lever
(sic)" you are STILL hamstrung by technology, and dependent on
technologies(albiet old ones) to provide you with the materials.
Your problem is that you just don't like(or are afraid of) change, pure
and simple. As technology is changing faster and faster, you guys look
sillier and sillier.
To be honest, I'm 41 and a Software Engineer(we've risen from the
depths of being called "Computer Programmers", and sport among our
ranks the wealthiest human beings), and I know how you feel, All this
change is enough to drive you batty. Integrating complex systems gets
more and more difficult each year. Sometimes I wish things would slow
down a little so that we could document the system procedures, detailed
drawings and parts lists, etc. (actually we are doing this more). The
problem is - if a company spends too much time "firming up there
position", I young, hotshot competitor will come along and cobble
together a BETTER system, using MORE MODERN technology, and PUT YOU OUT
OF BUSINESS. We are seeing evolution in action first-hand.
> Peter K1PO
Stewart - N0MHS
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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 10:33:37 -0700
From: Aaron.Jones@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
"Peter O. Brackett" <ab4bc@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Most modern up to date technologists wouldn't know how to put together a
>workable communications system on a life raft, mountain pass, desert island,
>or whatever...
I doubt that anyone could put together a CW rig on a life
raft/mountain pass/desert island , unless they were well stocked. Then
they would need an HF antenna and would have to find someone who knew
the code. If you're going to have to carry in radio parts, a soldering
iron, power mains and a code operator, wouldn't it be easier (and
safer) just to buy a million transistor satellite radio...
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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 13:38:46 -0500
From: "Peter O. Brackett" <ab4bc@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
Nope!
<Aaron Jones> wrote in message
news:34s3nskskl8ne4lrri0umde6rujprcfs1q@4ax.com...
> "Peter O. Brackett" <ab4bc@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >Most modern up to date technologists wouldn't know how to put together a
> >workable communications system on a life raft, mountain pass, desert
island,
> >or whatever...
>
> I doubt that anyone could put together a CW rig on a life
> raft/mountain pass/desert island , unless they were well stocked. Then
> they would need an HF antenna and would have to find someone who knew
> the code. If you're going to have to carry in radio parts, a soldering
> iron, power mains and a code operator, wouldn't it be easier (and
> safer) just to buy a million transistor satellite radio...
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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 13:38:24 -0500
From: "Peter O. Brackett" <ab4bc@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
Stewart:
You know not whereof you speak, heh, heh.
Send me a private email and I'll share some of my vocational pursuits with
you.
CW and ham radio is an avocation with me.
In my professional life I run at very high speeds... probably would blow
your mind... heh, heh.
Peter K1PO
<horseshoestew@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:8kspo1$5hn$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <8ksgi6$vqf$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>,
> "Peter O. Brackett" <ab4bc@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > Most modern up to date technologists wouldn't know how to put
> together a
> > workable communications system on a life raft, mountain pass, desert
> island,
> > or whatever... without 10 million transistors and 100 MB of code... A
> > really knowledgeable person who understands how things work at a
> basic lever
> > could do that with a few pieces of readily available junk. Lifeboat
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