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Hello all,
recent msgs originating in Europe  and some requests from SysOps  to translate
into English  language a  document (see  ref. 4  of attached text), concerning
some notes about 'Forwarding designator elements' written in italian language,
prompt me  to collect,  and then,  studying and  synthetizing, the most recent
'official' documentation, with the aim  also to revisit and up-to-date our ham
documentation.
I hope to  be suceeded in  elaborating the present  work and that,  this might
help  someone  on  the  matter  and so,  as  a  contribute  for  all ham-radio
community.
--
73 de Gus i0ojj

------------------------------cut here--------------------------------------


                                           22 June 2000

   HIERARCHICAL ADDRESSES AND FORWARDING DESIGNATOR ELEMENTS
     (A revisited and up-to-dated proposal for packet-radio
      *standards* by Gus, i0ojj)

   References:
   -----------
   1. BBS Hierarchical Addressing Protocol - Dave Wolf,  WO5H  et
      al. - August 30th, 1994.
   2. International  Routing  Designators - Jenkins, Lew N6VV  et
      al. - October 1, 1988.
   3. Some   comments  on  the  Hierarchical  Continent   Address
      Designator - Clark, Tom W3IWI - September 22, 1990.
   4. Elementi designatori del forwarding  (only IT) - Gus Ponza,
      I0OJJ - 5 February 1998  (up-to-dated and superseded by the
      present proposal).
   5. Working  Paper  on  Creation of  Dot-EU  Top-Level Domain -
      European Commission - 2 February  2000 - approved last days
      also at level of individual Governments of European Union.
   6. Countries  or  areas,  codes and abbreviations - revised 16
      February 2000 (ISO ALPHA-3 code).
   7. Composition of macro geographical (continental) regions and
      component geographical regions - revised 16 February 2000.
   8. Various documentation  collected from packet-radio  network
      during about a decade as PBBS SysOp.


   Foreword:
   ---------
     The  following  would be a *further*  attempt  to define the
   information  that  should be placed in the  "TO"  and the  "@"
   portions of a message.
     These  info  will  help  to comprise the HIERARCHIAL ADDRESS
   of  a  message  and consequently it concerns with the  correct
   compilation of forwarding files.

     The  two  types  of  messages  that  are  discussed here are
   PERSONAL and BULLETINS.


     If it is a Personal message, the first line that is sent may
   look like    |
    this:       +---+-------------- (S)end the (P)ersonal message
                    |      +------- (TO) IK1GKJ
                    |      |   +--- distribute to the PBBS IK1MSL
                    |      |   |    located in Piemonte region
                    |      |   |    in ITA
                    |      |   |    in EUROPE
                   -+ -----+   +-----------------
   example 1:      SP IK1GKJ @ IK1MSL.IPIE.ITA.EU
   ----------

   Or, if it is a Bulletin, it may look something like this:
                  |
                  +-----+------- (S)end a (B)ulletin
                        |   +-- addressed (TO) anyone interested
                        |   |          to (AMSAT) informations
                        |   |     +- distribute to the geographic
                        |   |     |  location (Lazio region)
                       -+ --+--   +---
   example 2:          SB AMSAT @ ILAZ
   ----------

     In  example 1 the message being sent is Personal and needs a
   specific GEOGRAPHIC HIERARCHICAL address. The hierarchy of the
   address  is  parsed  from  right  to  left  and identifies the
   location  of the station to whom the message is addressed. The
   format of that address is as follows:



    +---- Send Personal                       +- AF - Africa
    |                                         +- NA - NAmerica
   -+                                         +- SA - SAmerica
   SP IK1GKJ @ IK1MSL.IPIE.ITA.EU             +- AS - Asia
      +-----   +----- +--- -+-  |             +- EU - Europe
      |        |      |     |   +- CONTINENT -+- OC - Oceania
      |        |      |     |      (see Note 2)
      |        |      |     +-- COUNTRY -----+- PRT - Portugal
      |        |      |         (see Note 2) +- ESP - Spain
      |        |      +-- REGION             +- FRA - France
      |        |          (see Note 1)       +- xxx - yyyyyyy
      |        +-- DESTINATION PBBS CALLSIGN
      +---- ADDRESSEE CALLSIGN


     NOTE 1:
     -------

     In our italian system,  the administrative part  (and also a
   manageable area for packet-radio purposes) wich  characterizes
   a distinct *geographical area*  below  the  *country area*  is
   called Region (there are 20 Regions  wich,  in some instances,
   identify also a *call area*)  and to wich  we can  (or *must*)
   address the forwarding, in a  well defined mode,  without  any
   possible ambiguity of *geographic route*. See Annex 1.
     The  just done considerations make clear that adding another
   field to our r-lines between, PBBS callsign and Region, filled
   for  example  with  the  abbreviation  (numberplate)   of  our
   (italian) 'provinces' (in many instances  a  consistent number
   within each region), prefixed  with,  or without a  '#'  sign,
   besides  being  useless (unproductive) as per forwarding rule,
   could be lead  also  (in general)  to  an  incorrect  messages
   routing.


     NOTE 2:
     -------
     The Country and Continental H designators are *ignored* when
   the message is  in its particular domain.  Example:  in  a msg
   wich  originates  inside  Lazio  region  and  addressed  to  a
   station   of   the  same  region,  the  Nation  and  Continent
   designators (.ITA.EU) will be ignored.


   Proposal:
   ---------
     The  *general*  format,  wich  could be represent almost all
   over the world realities follows:


    +---- Send Personal
   -+
   sp call @ pbbs.region.state.country.continent
      (a)    (a)   (b)    (c)    (d)     (e)

     (a)  =  valid callsigns  as  defined by local communications
             autority.

     (b)  =  may  be  a  'Region',  an  'Area routing number',  a
             'Sub-region';
             *or*
             any  other  'large'  Administrative/Postal  district
             existing   *below*  the  Country,   or  *below*  the
             State/Province  areas  (as defined into the next (c)
             note).
             This field *MUST* be defined by each Country.

     (c)  =  the  names of 'States' or 'Provinces' into wich some
             Countries are subdivided.  This field  is applicable
             *ONLY* for such a systems in  wich this situation is
             foreseen.  Classic situations  in  wich  'State'  or
             'Province'  applies are, for example:  USA 'states',
             Canada 'provinces',    Mexican 'states',     Chinese
             'provinces',    Brasilian    'states',    Australian
             'provinces'(?) an so on;  for  all  other  countries
             this field *must* not exist.
             At the risk to be repetitious I  guess  that,  while
             the reference to the  "State"  appear  be  generally
             understood,  that  for  "Province",   *not yet*,  in
             particular, in this  context,  I  would  stress  the
             the concept that we refer to the word "Province"  as


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