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Subject: Hottest and fastest HF mode
Hi,
What is currently the fastest and hottest HF mode in use??
I have been using a Kantronics with GTOR several years ago, but sure there
must be something faster today...?
Thanks in advance if you have comments, URLs and pros/cons...
regards
Tor
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:33:36 -0500
From: W6RCecilA <Cecil.A.Moore@IEEE.org>
Subject: Hottest and fastest HF mode
Tor Tveitane wrote:
> What is currently the fastest and hottest HF mode in use??
I researched the subject before I bought my present modem. For my
money, it is PACTOR II from SCS. URLs: http://www.pactor.com and
http://www.scs-ptc.com
--
73, Cecil, W6RCA http://www.mindspring.com/~w6rca
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 23:31:27 GMT
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: Hottest and fastest HF mode
"Tor Tveitane" <tor@bushsoft.com> wrote in message
news:O5R15.999$eI.19947@news1.online.no...
> Hi,
>
> What is currently the fastest and hottest HF mode in use??
>
> I have been using a Kantronics with GTOR several years ago, but sure there
> must be something faster today...?
Pretty much equal between CLOVER and PACTOR-II.
They are very close, with PACTOR-II having a weak signal advantage,
and CLOVER having a bulk transport advantage.
> Thanks in advance if you have comments, URLs and pros/cons...
www.halcomm.com
www.scs-ptc.com
> regards
>
> Tor
--
... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 20:16:22 -0400
From: "Rob" <Pse@NoEmail.Com>
Subject: Hottest and fastest HF mode
I agree. I have used AMTOR, PACTOR 1, GTOR, HF packet and CLOVER on HF.
The best TOR mode for HF is clearly Pactor II. It is amazing. You have to
see it to believe it. It is very fast even under very poor conditions.
Just like GTOR is a proprietary mode of KANTRONICS, Pactor II is a
proprietary mode of SCS. You must buy a SCS modem. To my knowledge SCS has
not granted licences to any other modem manufacturer to use Pactor II.
For info on the SCS PTC II and SCS PTC IIe modems, see www.scs-ptc.com
But the modems are pricey!
Rob
"W6RCecilA" <Cecil.A.Moore@IEEE.org> wrote in message
news:3947FA30.839F584D@IEEE.org...
> Tor Tveitane wrote:
> > What is currently the fastest and hottest HF mode in use??
>
> I researched the subject before I bought my present modem. For my
> money, it is PACTOR II from SCS. URLs: http://www.pactor.com and
> http://www.scs-ptc.com
> --
> 73, Cecil, W6RCA http://www.mindspring.com/~w6rca
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 08:47:50 +0200
From: "Tor Tveitane" <tor@bushsoft.com>
Subject: Hottest and fastest HF mode
Hank Oredson <horedson@att.net> wrote in message
news:jBU15.1888$Xx5.130931@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> "Tor Tveitane" <tor@bushsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:O5R15.999$eI.19947@news1.online.no...
> > Hi,
> >
> > What is currently the fastest and hottest HF mode in use??
> >
> > I have been using a Kantronics with GTOR several years ago, but sure
there
> > must be something faster today...?
>
> Pretty much equal between CLOVER and PACTOR-II.
>
> They are very close, with PACTOR-II having a weak signal advantage,
> and CLOVER having a bulk transport advantage.
Hi,
Thanks for the feedback.
Which baudrates can I expect...?
And... do anyone of you know how these modes throughput compares to CODAN's
radio modem systems. (They are Hayes AT compatible).
regards
Tor
>
> > Thanks in advance if you have comments, URLs and pros/cons...
>
> www.halcomm.com
> www.scs-ptc.com
>
> > regards
> >
> > Tor
>
>
> --
>
> ... Hank
>
> http://horedson.home.att.net
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 06:57:24 -0500
From: "Steve Sampson" <ssampson@usa-site.net>
Subject: MFJ-1214
not yet.
"Juergen Hoenig" <hoenig@fh-furtwangen.de> wrote in message
news:960983089.900961@DS9.ai-lab.fh-furtwangen.de...
> hi
>
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:44:43 -0000
From: "Juergen Hoenig" <hoenig@fh-furtwangen.de>
Subject: MFJ-1214
hi
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:49:20 -0000
From: "Juergen Hoenig" <hoenig@fh-furtwangen.de>
Subject: MFJ-1214
hi
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:43:40 -0000
From: "Juergen Hoenig" <hoenig@fh-furtwangen.de>
Subject: MFJ-1214
hi
Rob <Pse@NoEmail.Com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
OT%X4.2728$qS3.7336@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> Can anyone tell me whether the MFJ-1214 RTTY, CW & WEFAX interface is a
> HAMCOMM type interface??
>
> 73's
> Rob
>
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 06:56:36 -0500
From: "Steve Sampson" <ssampson@usa-site.net>
Subject: PacComm Pactor I Controller. Opinions?
"Rob" <Pse@NoEmail.Com> wrote
> Yes, more Hams seem to be using PSK31 (or even PSKHELL) modes for keyboard
> to keyboard QSO's. I suspect that since you can get on PSK31 or PSKHELL by
> simply using your computer with a sound card and FREE software may be the
> reason.
Gee, do you think so? I think the second reason, is that you can crank down
the power (5 watts instead of 50).
>(By the way, PSKHELL is a better mode than PSK31 for really weak DX
> QSO's!).
Give me a break! Do you make this stuff up as you go along? A DX'er
wouldn't be caught dead without a digital voice player and computer
generated CW. "CQ DX, CQ CONTEST", "YOU'RE 59". Three
buttons, that's all you need. DX'ers never heard of packet, other than
the dxcluster.
> But I still prefer Pactor 1 with its ERROR FREE copy. (I even prefer AMTOR
> over PSK31 with its almost error free copy)
>
> Rob
Rob, you're not making any sense. PSK31 is a minimum bandwidth mode
(more power per BW/Hz). AMTOR and PACTOR are not even in the same
class. They are ultra-wide shift FSK (in comparison).
Steve
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:01:09 -0400
From: Gary Coffman <ke4zv@bellsouth.net>
Subject: PacComm Pactor I Controller. Opinions?
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 06:56:36 -0500, "Steve Sampson" <ssampson@usa-site.net>
wrote:
>"Rob" <Pse@NoEmail.Com> wrote
>> Yes, more Hams seem to be using PSK31 (or even PSKHELL) modes for keyboard
>> to keyboard QSO's. I suspect that since you can get on PSK31 or PSKHELL by
>> simply using your computer with a sound card and FREE software may be the
>> reason.
>
>Gee, do you think so? I think the second reason, is that you can crank down
>the power (5 watts instead of 50).
>
>>(By the way, PSKHELL is a better mode than PSK31 for really weak DX
>> QSO's!).
>
>Give me a break! Do you make this stuff up as you go along? A DX'er
>wouldn't be caught dead without a digital voice player and computer
>generated CW. "CQ DX, CQ CONTEST", "YOU'RE 59". Three
>buttons, that's all you need. DX'ers never heard of packet, other than
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