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K4CJX, suggested that I should upgrade out of the 'Horse and Buggy' days
when I mentioned my misgivings. The PTC-II is around $950, and the PTC-IIe
(economy) is $649. I paid $265, 1 year and 4 months ago! Still a New Horse
and Buggy to me! New COMPLETE HF Stations are available for less than that
$950! The price for this controller seems Very High to me! New Pentium III
Computers aren't much more!
And I guess that Windows is also the ONLY way to Compute! Go and ask Bill,
he'll confirm that!
Yah right!
Smarter, and wiser, but disappointed!
73
Mike Pupeza VE3EQP
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 04:54:40 GMT
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: PacComm Pactor I Controller. Opinions?
"Mike Pupeza" <michael.pupeza@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:lTB15.75180$uw6.1455699@news20.bellglobal.com...
(deletia)
> BUT, now, more of the Internet Accessing BBSes (WinLink) are also using
> free, but proprietary software, Airmail 2000, and they no longer support
> keyboard contacts. Also GREAT, right? Not quite! Again, this software, while
> available FREE, is limited.
> YOUR PacComm is NOT SUPPORTED. Neither if you use a Mac, Linux, OS-2, Unix,
> Sun Workstations, Dumb Terminals, or other Computer Platforms.
There are still quite a few of us on HF with various protocols, including
CLOVER, PACTOR-I and PACTOR-II who run open systems, available
to anyone who wishes to use them. In my case, it is a node, available only
using CLOVER on HF. From the node you have access to the PNW packet
network, with various BBS systems who would be glad to support any
activity you might like. Other systems are available on PACTOR, e.g. n7qdn.
Frequencies on my web page, if you want to try CLOVER ...
> Smarter, and wiser, but disappointed!
The land line lids are "winning" ... if you let them ...
> 73
>
> Mike Pupeza VE3EQP
--
... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 00:58:13 -0400
From: "Rob" <Pse@NoEmail.Com>
Subject: PacComm Pactor I Controller. Opinions?
Yes, more Hams seem to be using PSK31 (or even PSKHELL) modes for keyboard
to keyboard QSO's. I suspect that since you can get on PSK31 or PSKHELL by
simply using your computer with a sound card and FREE software may be the
reason. (By the way, PSKHELL is a better mode than PSK31 for really weak DX
QSO's!).
But I still prefer Pactor 1 with its ERROR FREE copy. (I even prefer AMTOR
over PSK31 with its almost error free copy)
Rob
"Mike Pupeza" <michael.pupeza@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:pTB15.75181$uw6.1455699@news20.bellglobal.com...
> I am the one that discussed the PacComm PacTOR CONTROLLER!
>
> I purchased it NEW in Feb 1999, from Dentronics at the Florida Orlando
> HamCation!
>
> It works FINE. In fact it amazes me sometimes when the noise comes up, and
> it recovers errors, that sound like static to me.
>
> However - several things!
>
> Pactor-II is the 'recommended' new standard for Digital HF Communications.
>
> PacComm no longer seems interested in supporting their product. After
trying
> repeatedly to get the proper manual, with updated info that would truly
> represent the version that I have - ver 1.9/2.02 level 1, they stopped
> responding to me!
> TOTALLY!
> They never supplied the actual manual that showed their own PC layout, nor
> the correct Command Set.
> I had heard that they fell out with the PTC German Originators, and don't
> appear to be producing their later PTC-II either.
> The PTC Group graciously forwarded an updated manual to me, but it also
> doesn't completely corespond to my PacComm made controller.
>
> Pactor 1 is becoming obsolete. Very few stations are working keyboard to
> keyboard on Pactor anymore. Only the connections to major BBS stations
> appear to be common! PSK-31 is the way to go for Amateur to Amateur
> contacts!
>
> MOST Pactor 1 and Pactor-II is being used for BBS operation, and utilize
> Internet for E-Mail! GREAT, you say! Especially if you go RVing, or
Sailing,
> or Camping in the Great Outdoors! E-mail by Radio - wonderful!
>
> BUT, now, more of the Internet Accessing BBSes (WinLink) are also using
> free, but proprietary software, Airmail 2000, and they no longer support
> keyboard contacts. Also GREAT, right? Not quite! Again, this software,
while
> available FREE, is limited.
> YOUR PacComm is NOT SUPPORTED. Neither if you use a Mac, Linux, OS-2,
Unix,
> Sun Workstations, Dumb Terminals, or other Computer Platforms.
>
> The 'lock-in' is becoming tighter. Since Pactor-II technology is
> proprietary, and STC has the key, only they will be allowing new
controllers
> to be built!
>
> Where is this headed?
>
> Downward, I suspect, and hope!
>
> I have been in contact with the Originator of Airmail KE6RK, and he 'may'
> try to get the PacComm, or the equivalent PTC-1, supported for the
program.
> He claims only several people have 'asked'! Several BBS Sysops, N0ZO, and
> K4CJX, suggested that I should upgrade out of the 'Horse and Buggy' days
> when I mentioned my misgivings. The PTC-II is around $950, and the PTC-IIe
> (economy) is $649. I paid $265, 1 year and 4 months ago! Still a New
Horse
> and Buggy to me! New COMPLETE HF Stations are available for less than that
> $950! The price for this controller seems Very High to me! New Pentium III
> Computers aren't much more!
>
> And I guess that Windows is also the ONLY way to Compute! Go and ask Bill,
> he'll confirm that!
>
> Yah right!
>
> Smarter, and wiser, but disappointed!
>
> 73
>
> Mike Pupeza VE3EQP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:48:57 +0300
From: "Tero Laitinen" <tero.laitinen@kolumbus.fi>
Subject: Skysweeper software
I have tested for some time the brand new skysweeper software
(www.skysweep.com).
It seems to work fine atleast with CW, RTTY, PSK31/QPSK. I had to test it
with .WAV files (only signal input from file
is allowed in demo mode)
Have anybody tested the registered version? How it does perform in real-time
environment?
-Tero
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