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Date: Sat, 03 Jun 00 14:51:21 MET

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From: pa2aga@pe1mvx.ampr.org
To: hd_broadcast@pa2aga.ampr.org
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> TOO expensive.  Talk about a mark-up!
>
> I can buy a 128 KB SRAM low-low power chip (part number S628128-70LL such as
> Hitachi HY628100A  LLP-70).  It is even less expensive.
>
> Does anyone know what the difference is between the S628128-70L chip and the
> S628128-70LL chip??
>
> Can I use the S628128-70LL in the KPC-3??
>
> 73's
> Rob

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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 13:00:40 -0400
From: "Rob" <Pse@NoEmail.Com>
Subject: Help  -- 128 KB SRAM Chip

Hi Dana,

Thanks for the warning.  But it was just pointed out to me that the chip is
made by Hyundai not Hitachi.

Details at http://kcs.hei.co.kr/models/sram/sramcomp/1M/HY628100B.PDF

It is a TTL chip.  It looks like it will tolerate 5 volts just fine.

For a KPC-3, the LL low low power SRAM chips look great.  And they cost a
lot less.

Rob

"Dana H. Myers K6JQ" <Dana@Source.Net> wrote in message
news:39374D76.B16CFAAA@Source.Net...
>
>
> "D. Stussy" wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Rob wrote:
> >
> > > I can buy a 128 KB SRAM low-low power chip (part number S628128-70LL
such as
> > > Hitachi HY628100A  LLP-70).  It is even less expensive.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know what the difference is between the S628128-70L chip
and the
> > > S628128-70LL chip??
> > >
> > > Can I use the S628128-70LL in the KPC-3??
> >
> > Did you try Hitachi's web site?  I bet the only difference is power
consumption
> > (as in current drain).
>
> I'd be a little cautious, since there are more and more 3.3V chips out
these days
> that might not tolerate 5V.
>
> --
> Dana  K6JQ  DoD #j
> dana@source.net
>
>

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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 12:54:51 -0400
From: "Rob" <Pse@NoEmail.Com>
Subject: Help  -- 128 KB SRAM Chip

Many thanks for the link.

I will use the Hyundi SRAM chip.  It is about half the price of most
compatible SRAM chips.

It costs less than $10 US.

73's
Rob

"Rick Haub" <rhaub@midwestmicro-tek.com> wrote in message
news:3937C9E8.121A443C@midwestmicro-tek.com...
> The HY628100A is not a Hitachi part but a Hyundai part. Go here for a PDF
data
> sheet.
>
> http://kcs.hei.co.kr/models/sram/sramcomp/1M/HY628100B.PDF
>
> This part only comes in the SOP and TSOP-1 package (according to Hyundai).
I'm
> assuming that your's is in a plastic DIP package? If so you can get a
similar
> part from BG micro for cheep.
>
> Rick   KC0GIX
>
> Rob wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to upgrade the static RAM (SRAM) chip in my KPC-3.
> >
> > I need a SRAM chip (part number S628128-70L).
> > They are sold out in this area.  There are on back order -- probably at
> > least 4 weeks before they show up.  KANTRONICS sells them but they are
way
> > TOO expensive.  Talk about a mark-up!
> >
> > I can buy a 128 KB SRAM low-low power chip (part number S628128-70LL
such as
> > Hitachi HY628100A  LLP-70).  It is even less expensive.
> >
> > Does anyone know what the difference is between the S628128-70L chip and
the
> > S628128-70LL chip??
> >
> > Can I use the S628128-70LL in the KPC-3??
> >
> > 73's
> > Rob
>

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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 12:58:04 -0400
From: "Rob" <Pse@NoEmail.Com>
Subject: Help  -- 128 KB SRAM Chip

Hi Randy,

I just found out that the chip is a Hyundai chip NOT an Hitachi chip.
Details are at http://kcs.hei.co.kr/models/sram/sramcomp/1M/HY628100B.PDF

You were very close.  The standby current in the Hyundai chip is 20 ua.  It
should work great with a KPC-3!  It also costs a lot less.

73's
Rob

"Randall Gawtry" <rgawtry@timewave.com> wrote in message
news:8h8hjq$th$1@newsfeed.minn.net...
> Rob,
> I checked in some of our archive Hitachi data books.  While I didn't find
the
> precise part you mentioned, generally Hitachi medium speed SRAM with an LL
> suffix is low power standby current (spec'ed at 15 uA vs. 50 uA normal).
We
> have used this type of SRAM in various projects over the years and have
had no
> problem with the LL or equivalent version from any manufacturer.  (Backup
> batteries last longer and resetting the SRAM to all zeros by pulling the
> battery may take a lot longer!)
> Most ICs are in very short supply at this point, so you will find problems
> obtaining many parts at low prices with fast delivery.
>
> 73,
> Randy Gawtry
> Timewave Technology Inc.
>
>
> In article <5BDZ4.4776$qS3.12347@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>, "Rob"
<Pse@NoEmail.Com>
> wrote:
> >There is no information on this chip on the Hitachi web site.  Very
strange.
> >
> >I sent Hitachi an Email.  But perhaps someone reading this post may have
had
> >some actual experience with this type of chip.
> >
> >73's
> >Rob
> >
> >"D. Stussy" <kd6lvw@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote in message
> >news:Pine.LNX.4.10.10006020011000.138-100000@mbx.bde-arc.ampr.org...
> >> On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Rob wrote:
> >> > I would like to upgrade the static RAM (SRAM) chip in my KPC-3.
> >> >
> >> > I need a SRAM chip (part number S628128-70L).
> >> > They are sold out in this area.  There are on back order -- probably
at
> >> > least 4 weeks before they show up.  KANTRONICS sells them but they
are
> >way
> >> > TOO expensive.  Talk about a mark-up!
> >> >
> >> > I can buy a 128 KB SRAM low-low power chip (part number S628128-70LL
> >such as
> >> > Hitachi HY628100A  LLP-70).  It is even less expensive.
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone know what the difference is between the S628128-70L chip
and
> >the
> >> > S628128-70LL chip??
> >> >
> >> > Can I use the S628128-70LL in the KPC-3??
> >>
> >> Did you try Hitachi's web site?  I bet the only difference is power
> >consumption
> >> (as in current drain).
> >>
> >
> >

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Date: 03 Jun 2000 01:11:17 GMT
From: johnl84238@aol.com (JOHNL84238)
Subject: Help  -- 128 KB SRAM Chip

Take a look at ZMD-America.....their
distributor is All American Semiconductor......ZMD specializes in a
lot of the older lower density SRAMs that
Hitachi and others have discontinued.
You can find them on the web at
www.zmda.com

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Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 07:57:14 -0500
From: Meg and JoAnne Maenpaa <maenpaa@corecomm.net>
Subject: N0ZO no longer supports Keyboard inputs!

Hi Rob,

> I think you are completely wrong here.  Anyone can develop 
> applications that use today's webserver/browser technology, 
> which is layered on top of TCP/IP.  It is simple to write perl 
> or php scripts that run on Apache, or scripts that are run by 
> Roxen, or on Microsoft IIS.

Hey! Thanks for the great advice!  I now know what to tell the
Director of the Office of Emergency Management the next time he
is looking for technological support from the amateur radio


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