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Subject: What is a good TNC?
Cathryn Mataga <cathryn@junglevision.com> wrote:
> What's the most popular radio in EU for high speed
> packet? Do you guys modify commercial gear for this
> typically? (Oh, and I'm saving this list of links,
> thank you.)
70cm:
For low speed packet (9k6/19k2) the best option is the t7f:
http://www.baycom.org/bayweb/tech/t7f/index.htm
kits are available from the author, complete transceivers
from www.kombi-elektonik.de (perhaps from others, too).
Before the t7f was available we used TEKK-radios (known as
KNET here)
High-Speed (76k8):
http://www.liebeck.de/70_breit/76k8eng.htm
Available as kit from www.gigatech.de but not as assembled
unit. This one is used by all of the few 76k8 user access points
as far as I know.
Another option is the rather expensive trx4s from symek. I
don't know anybody who actually use it, so I can't comment
on it, but it sounds all very nice (besides the price)
http://www.symek.com/tnc-g/trx4s.htm
On higher frequencies such as 5/10Ghz there are no
commercial radios available. For 6cm DF9ICs GigaTRX
is the standard, on 10Ghz some people use modified
commercial TV-satellite equipment (which is rather cheap).
73s Hans-Peter
PS: I am not a HF specialist, I can only tell you what is
available if other people build it ;)
--
Hans-Peter Zorn, Karlsruhe, Germany
http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhsm/ hpz@gmx.net (preferred)
http://1409.org/people/hp/ hp@1409.org (hamradio stuff)
>.
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Date: 5 Feb 2000 18:44:00 GMT
From: Hans-Peter Zorn <hpz@gmx.net>
Subject: What is a good TNC?
Hank Oredson <horedson@att.net> wrote:
> URLs?
> Manufacturer names?
> Distributor names?
> I keep hearing this rumor of wonderful gear available in Europe,
> and know how to purchase from European manufacturers and distributors.
> But who are they?
http://www.baycom.org/bayweb/cat/index.htm
(SCC Cards, Paralell Modem, EPP Modems, classical BayCom-Modem)
www.kombi-elektronik.de (tncs, trxs)
http://www.landolt.de/info/afuinfo/afuuebersicht.htm (modems, rmncs, tncs)
http://www.symek.com/tnc-g/main.htm (TNC3, TNC4e)
http://www.nordlink.org/yam/ (serial modem)
http://home.t-online.de/home/dl5daj/homepage.htm (tnc2q)
http://gate1.swiss-artg.ch/vanessa/index.html (vanessa isa card)
http://www.afthd.tu-darmstadt.de/~dg1kjd/pciscc4/index.html (PCI-SCC Card,
4 Ports, max 52Mbps, will be available from baycom)
Some of the above sites are German language only, sorry.
73s Hans-Peter
--
Hans-Peter Zorn, Karlsruhe, Germany
http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhsm/ hpz@gmx.net (preferred)
http://1409.org/people/hp/ hp@1409.org (hamradio stuff)
>.
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Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 17:48:44 GMT
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: What is a good TNC?
"Rob Janssen" <nomail@rob.knoware.nl> wrote in message
news:slrn89iobu.q38.nomail@linux.pe1chl.ampr.org...
> Hank Oredson <horedson@att.net> wrote:
> >... or other hardware that one can PURCHASE and connect and use?
>
> >There is a long thread complaining about Kantronics TNCs, and how
> >terrible they are, but nobody has yet posted any suggestions on what
> >one should purchase instead. Something equally easy to hook up.
>
> >What is better? Timewave? PACCOM? MFJ?
>
> Apparently there is a lot less stuff available on the US market than over
> here in Europe. We can buy assembled SCC cards, accompanying modems,
> SCC cards with modems on them, separate modems connected to serial or
> parallel port, etc. And soundcards, of course.
>
> In the past there was a company named DRSI that sold such things in the US,
> but apparently the US amateur prefers a hot and noisy box over a PC card.
> (this was in the days of the AEA PK-87 and PK-88, aka "the furnace")
>
> These are all to be preferred over any TNC.
URLs?
Manufacturer names?
Distributor names?
I keep hearing this rumor of wonderful gear available in Europe,
and know how to purchase from European manufacturers and distributors.
But who are they?
--
... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
>.
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Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 00:11:06 +0100
From: Joop van der Velden <pe1dna@amsat.org>
Subject: What is a good TNC?
Hank Oredson wrote:
> > Apparently there is a lot less stuff available on the US market than over
> > here in Europe. We can buy assembled SCC cards, accompanying modems,
> > SCC cards with modems on them, separate modems connected to serial or
> > parallel port, etc. And soundcards, of course.
> URLs?
> Manufacturer names?
> Distributor names?
> I keep hearing this rumor of wonderful gear available in Europe,
> and know how to purchase from European manufacturers and distributors.
> But who are they?
If Dutch is no problem : http://www.dse.nl/ws19/nokia.html
Here you can buy an scc card (only 1 scc chip) for US$ 25 and a 9k6 modem
for US$50, and a Nokia cellular set suited for modification to 70cm 9k6
also for US$50.
Getting all this stuff shipped to the USA is quite a hassle - i'm sure
similar projects are running over there ? We have literally truckloads
of UHF cellular equipment to our disposal due to the demise of analog
cellular networks.
--
Joop van der Velden
pe1dna@amsat.org
>.
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Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 23:10:36 GMT
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: What is a good TNC?
"Hans-Peter Zorn" <hpz@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:87hub8$pb8$2@news.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de...
> Cathryn Mataga <cathryn@junglevision.com> wrote:
> > What's the most popular radio in EU for high speed
> > packet? Do you guys modify commercial gear for this
> > typically? (Oh, and I'm saving this list of links,
> > thank you.)
>
> 70cm:
> For low speed packet (9k6/19k2) the best option is the t7f:
> http://www.baycom.org/bayweb/tech/t7f/index.htm
> kits are available from the author, complete transceivers
> from www.kombi-elektonik.de (perhaps from others, too).
This URL does not seem to work ...
Thanks for all the good info.
A *lot* more interesting gear available in Europe than in the US ...
> Before the t7f was available we used TEKK-radios (known as
> KNET here)
>
> High-Speed (76k8):
>
> http://www.liebeck.de/70_breit/76k8eng.htm
> Available as kit from www.gigatech.de but not as assembled
> unit. This one is used by all of the few 76k8 user access points
> as far as I know.
>
> Another option is the rather expensive trx4s from symek. I
> don't know anybody who actually use it, so I can't comment
> on it, but it sounds all very nice (besides the price)
>
> http://www.symek.com/tnc-g/trx4s.htm
>
> On higher frequencies such as 5/10Ghz there are no
> commercial radios available. For 6cm DF9ICs GigaTRX
> is the standard, on 10Ghz some people use modified
> commercial TV-satellite equipment (which is rather cheap).
>
>
> 73s Hans-Peter
>
> PS: I am not a HF specialist, I can only tell you what is
> available if other people build it ;)
--
... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
>.
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Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 00:44:06 GMT
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: What is a good TNC?
"Joop van der Velden" <pe1dna@amsat.org> wrote in message
news:VA.00000377.037ea28c@p233...
> Hank Oredson wrote:
>
> > > Apparently there is a lot less stuff available on the US market than
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