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Ham-Digital Digest          Fri, 12 Nov 99       Volume 99 : Issue  289

Today's Topics:
              Anyone Sending/Receiving CW over the Net?
                     best doulband 9k6 ? (2 msgs)
                     German packet radio (3 msgs)
                      PSK31 PROBLEM W/SOUND CARD
                     vx-5R and cellular reception
                        WTB Model 15 teletype

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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:39:07 -0500
From: wd1v@amsat.org
Subject: Anyone Sending/Receiving CW over the Net?

In article <38295DA3.22D88AB9@ix.netcom.com>, Cal Kutemeier
<ckuter@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>.. ...  - .... .. ...  .-- .... .- -  ..-  -- . .- -. ..--..
>
>wd1v@amsat.org wrote:
>> 
>> Please pass along the details.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> John/WD1V


I meant like a chat room where you can hear and
send audio CW. 

Better get your keyboard fixed. Your print
is all compressed onto a single line. :-)

John D. Seney      
wd1v@amsat.org   €   http://people.ne.mediaone.net/wd1v
Amateur Radio FAQ   €   Macnet   €   Oscilloscope FAQ
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:19:41 GMT
From: nomail@pe1chl.demon.nl (Rob Janssen)
Subject: best doulband 9k6 ?

Hamish Moffatt <hamish@rising.com.au> wrote:
>Joop van der Velden <pe1dna@amsat.org> wrote:
>> Dave wrote:
>>> whats the best daulbaud (144/440) rig for 9k6 packet?

>> Icom IC821 seems to be one of the very few.  Mobile rigs are all crap.

>>> easist to modify?

>Costs a small fortune -- more than most medium-grade HF rigs.

He asked for the best, and was not mentioning cost considerations...

Rob
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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 19:44:46 -0500
From: Dave <floydboyz@hotmail.com>
Subject: best doulband 9k6 ?

whats the best daulbaud (144/440) rig for 9k6 packet?
easist to modify?
tnx de dave


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Date: 11 Nov 1999 08:53:36 -0500
From: esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us (Eric S. Johansson)
Subject: German packet radio

"Steve Sampson" <ssampson@usa-site.net> writes:

> Eric S. Johansson wrote
> 
> Yes.  There's not any radio information there, just modems.
> 
> >that  might be  why  people are  using  FM radio's  for  the FSK
> > transport.  Wouldn't the capture effect  help compensate for some of the
> >drift?  Or am I merely displaying my appalling ignorance of RF systems? 
> 
> To answer your question  though, picture a bandpass filter waveform.
> Now shift  one to the right  of another.  This  frequency error then
> cuts off energy and errors are the result.  Yes, the carrier is rock
> solid and  captured, but  the audio  is in the  noise.  Lots  of bit
> errors.

things for the  response.  This is the kind  of information folks need
to help make good decisions about their radios etc. 

Now, if one  was to keep the deviation low  and the consumed bandwidth
smaller in relation to the  filter, would that not help compensate for
the drift? 

Another  way of  asking the  question is  if the  band pass  filter is
larger than the possible drift of the signal, would you still have the
same problems with high bit error rate? 

this kind  of problem might be  why the Slovenian is  used what looked
like a near direct conversion receiver and BPSK modulation. 

--- eric


-- 
Eric S. Johansson ka1eec  esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us
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Date: 11 Nov 1999 16:43:04 GMT
From: Hans-Peter Zorn <hpz@gmx.net>
Subject: German packet radio

Eric S. Johansson <esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us> wrote:
> Hans-Peter Zorn <hpz@gmx.net> writes:

>> Yes, but for user access 9k6 is sufficient. 

> I seriously disagree with this.   It's useful for batch processes like email
> or news  transport but not  for anything beyond  that.  Those pipes  fill up
> really fast when you start  doing something interesting.  I personally would
> put minimum end-user access at something  like 76 K. and backbones well over
> a megabit.  Think of your competition (Internet) and you will understand
why.
We have about 12 25 Khz user access channels for simplex, 12 for echoduplex


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