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The Owner <agiroux@cvn.net> wrote:
>Rob Janssen wrote:
>> Tony Giroux <agiroux@cvn.net> wrote:
>> >The problem is FIPS does not tell the Windows OS that it is removing 1
>> >gig of drive space and that it will be reformatted so that Windows can
>> >not read it.
>> This is simply not true!
>Of course it is -- your statements below show it. WIndows cannot learn new
>configurations
>to the hardware without Plug & Play or through the WIndows interfaces.
What do you know about that? Not much, it seems...
A change in partition size involves a change in the partition table and
a change in the filesystem superblock (in the case if FAT, this resides
in the partition bootsector).
FIPS makes these modifications and Windows learns about them when it
boots.
>> >Worse, Windows didn't know that the Boot track was
>> >re-written with a foreign boot process.
>> And that doesn't matter at all.
>This is one of the reasons some commercial vendors switched to Power Qwests
>Boot Magic
>software to use instead of Lilo.
I said it does not matter. I don't care about commercial vendors adding a
bootmanager that looks more appealing to the customer, it is their right
to do so. But there is NO technical reason for it.
>Ah -- you loaded Linux first and then run Windows under it -- good idea.
>It is when you do the reverse that the fun begans.
I described how the fun begins when you install NT on a system that already
has Windows95. There is no such problem when installing Linux.
In fact, installation and re-installation of Windows XX on systems with
existing partitions is riddled with problems, because Bill's crummy
installation programs try to find out what you want and block you from
doing it. This even happens when you are using only a single M$ OS: for
example, try to re-install NT on a system that has a D: drive spanning
multiple disks. You only want to re-install NT on C: because it was
somehow fucked up, or simply because you want to move the server to
another domain (you cannot do that without re-installation, boooo).
Now try to do that without touching the D: partitions. It won't let you.
So your only option is to restore D: from a backup after installation is
completed. This adds extra risk and lots of time.
Under Linux you always get the opportunity to look at the exact partition
table entries, and select the partition and location YOU want. And it
won't touch partitions that are not involved, but later you can still add
them to the filesystem (e.g. mounting a Windows partition).
Of course, there is always a class of users (you are in it) who do not
understand enough of basic disk partitioning and filesystem layouts to
perform these tasks. For those, Linux distributions also include "wizard"
like partitioners, that cope with standard situations like "use entire disk
for Linux" or "shrink Windows partition to make room for Linux".
Rob
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Date: 18 Oct 1999 06:16:14 GMT
From: Hamish Moffatt <hamish@rising.com.au>
Subject: Linux crashes Windows - was Re: The BBS network and tcp/ip
The Owner <agiroux@cvn.net> wrote:
> Of course it is -- your statements below show it. WIndows cannot learn new
> configurations
> to the hardware without Plug & Play or through the WIndows interfaces.
Re-partitioning your hard drive is not a change to your hardware
configuration.
Hamish
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:11:43 +0000
From: "D. Stussy" <kd6lvw@bde-arc.ampr.org>
Subject: Linux crashes Windows - was Re: The BBS network and tcp/ip
On 19 Oct 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> Tony Giroux <agiroux@cvn.net> wrote:
> > It may not be to you or your computer, but Windows suddenly doesn't have
drive
> > space that it
> > had before.
>
> True, but this isn't a problem. The repartitioning tools correctly update
> the partition table and the file allocation tables and so forth for
> the affected file systems. Windows does not know that it used to have
> more space.
.... You're assuming that windows doesn't take a snapshot of the system
(including disk partition size) and compare it to an earlier version.... I'm
not saying that it does (or doesn't), but it obviously has some configuration
information that it does save - else the "you've installed new hardware"
message would never magically appear.....
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:50:50 +0800
From: "Nico mail server" <alegna@cygnus.uwa.edu.au>
Subject: Micro Orbiter 3.0 r4.2 user HELP!
hi there,
I have used this great satellite tracking software on my old notebook...now
that I have upgraded my machine I tried to install it but the last disk(3
diskette set)cannot be read !
If anyone has a copy of disk 3 please contact me.
regards,
VK6 BOS Nick
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Date: 18 Oct 1999 20:45:57 GMT
From: Tony Baca <tbaca@hpbs1129.boi.hp.com>
Subject: Need an Elmer
Presently, my home town, Boise, Idaho, does not appear
to have any active packet BBS. The local Hewlett-Packard
radio club is talking about providing the town with a
PBBS. I am looking for someone who is willing to help,
via e-mail, us set up the system and in particular, help
with mail forwarding in and out of our node.
Any Elmers out there who could help?
Thanks
73
WV7I
_____
/ony tbaca@boi.hp.com
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:25:00 GMT
From: amx@i.am
Subject: New RTTY software - It can TRANSMIT now
In article <7u42lc$mgo$1@nickel.uunet.be>,
"jean-luc.berrrier" <jean-luc.berrier@village.uunet.be> wrote:
> I think also that this is a good job to post this prgm.
>
> This is strange... a lot of people annouce that they have also a
"prgm"...
>
> Sorry the one from Sergei works fine and I am waiting for the TX part.
If you have full-duplex sound card (and full-duplex Windows drivers),
you can try the first BETA-version with transmit capabilities:
http://ua9osv.hypermart.net/tty015b.zip .
They say it work well ...
I hope version for non-duplex cards will be made soon ...
73!
Sergei,
UA9OSV
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Date: 19 Oct 1999 18:48:27 GMT
From: pmunsel@aol.com (PMunsel)
Subject: Packet in Central Texas?
Was wondering if anyone could tell me where the packet activity is in Central
Texas. I have been off for about 6 months, and none of the nodes, or BBS' are
where I left them! I live in Hearne, and there is nothing in the Bryan /
Clooege Station area, or Temple area unless I am overlooking it somehow. I
have
found some keyboard to keyboard stuff on 145.590. Waco is not accessible from
here due to a VERY high hill.
Thanks and 73,
Paul Munsel N5XMV
Hearne, Tx.
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 23:23:04 GMT
From: Per-Sverre Budahl <la2mv@tr.telia.no>
Subject: Swiss-PTC and SCS PTC-II -- What's the difference?
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