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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:08:55 GMT
From: nomail@pe1chl.demon.nl (Rob Janssen)
Subject: The BBS network and tcp/ip.
Hank Oredson <horedson@att.net> wrote:
>Charles Brabham <n5pvl@texoma.net> wrote in message
>> I've been reluctant to use LINUX because I've never known a LINUX user who
>> could keep a Win95/98 machine going for more than a week or so without
>> crashing in some awful way. Talk to a really experienced LINUX user, and
>> they'll tell you that they can only keep a Win95/98 machine going for a
>> matter of hours or even minutes between crashes!
>> That seems like an awful lot of inconvenience to put up with, just to use
>> LINUX on one of my machines. I'm not sure if I'm ready to give up the
>> reliable, crash-free performance I've been enjoying for years on my
>Win95/98
>> stuff.
>This is the main reason I reformatted the hard drive of my Linux machine.
>After many many years of reliable windows use, I decided it was a good
>idea to see what Linux had to offer. Within a day of installing Linux onto
>my network, the windows machines began to crash frequently. Once Linux
>was removed from the network, windows again became very stable.
You two must be attracting trouble... or it is a psychological effect:
once you have installed Linux, Windows seems very unstable by comparison.
At work we have a network with several NT and Linux servers, plus 300
Windows95 clients and a few Linux clients, and we experience no increased
instability of Windows systems at all. And of course, the Linux systems run
until you want to upgrade them or they have to be moved for some reason.
>> I intend to wait until this problem with LINUX boxes mysteriously causing
>> nearby Win95/98 machines to become crash-prone has been tracked down and
>> resolved.
>This seems a reasonable thing to do. Perhaps the Linux experts can explain
>why this problem occurs. For now it seems the best thing to do is to avoid
>Linux until the problem is cured.
Sure. The problem does not occur but in your imagination.
But it surely is better that you wait until eternity until it is "solved",
this saves you from having to look at Linux as a reasonable alternative.
(of course I know how to crash a Windows system from another system, need
not be Linux at all. but the packets required for that are not sent by
Linux by itself, you need to run "teardrop", "newtear" or some such
program, also available for Windows)
Rob
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:22:40 GMT
From: nomail@pe1chl.demon.nl (Rob Janssen)
Subject: The BBS network and tcp/ip.
John Wiley <jw@physics.gmu.edu> wrote:
>Charles Brabham <n5pvl@texoma.net> wrote:
>: I have yet to know a single perason who got LINUX for "free". Everyone I
>: know coughed up between 30-80 bucks, depending on how recent a copy they
>: wanted.
>1) Put me on the list... Redhat 5.1/5.2/6.1... Didn't pay anything but
>the price of the CD blank, Chuck... (That was about 0.75USD each...)
>2) Once again, you seem to be confused regarding the meaning of
> "free" software, Charles... A little education wouldn't
> kill you... (But then you'd have no reason to gripe...)
Besides that, he of course is too ignorant to know what he will get when
he pays that kind of money.
With Windows98: about half of the OS, if I am right (over here, Windows
costs about the equiv of $100, I think). No usable applications, these
are all extra.
With Linux: last week I bought SuSE 6.2 for the equiv of $40 (never buy
American when you can get European for 1/2 the price and better quality),
and it included not only the OS on 6 CDs but also the 430 page manual,
and more than 1300 application programs.
And those are seriously usable applications in the fields of software
development, image manipulation, typesetting, networking, databases,
word processing, games, multimedia *and even hamradio!*.
Most of these things you will have to buy extra with Win95, which does
not include much more than a crippled editor and some simple games.
>: "Technically", LINUX is free. Here on planet Earth though, we real humans
>: tend to find ourselves paying through the nose for it. In fact, by the time
>: you buy "add ons" to make up for functions not originally provided by the
>: distro, you can easily end up paying more than you would for more competent
>: software with wider compatability, like Win95/98.
I would certainly like to know what function, included with Win95/98, is
so expensive on Linux. And you have misunderstood the meaning of the word
free in the context "Linux is free software", as pointed out to you by
others.
Rob
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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:56:15 GMT
From: marsgal42@hotmail.com
Subject: WEFAX format...
In article <7u2r1q$ad7$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
marsgal42@hotmail.com wrote:
> Isn't there information on the subject in Taggart? My copy is
> at home and I'm not... :-(
In response to private email - "Taggart" is Ralph Taggart
WB8DQT's book on weather satellites, published by the ARRL.
Check out the ARRL, or consult my reading list at
http://www.qsl.net/va3ldh/reading.html
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Laura Halliday VA3LDH "Que les nuages soient notre pied
Grid: FN03gs a terre..." - Hospital/Shafte
Satellite: VA3SFL on UO-22, KO-25
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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