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Ham-Digital Digest Wed, 6 Oct 99 Volume 99 : Issue 252
Today's Topics:
BULLET FORWARDERS ARGUING (2 msgs)
Japanese packet radio hinted at on TAPR site.
Let's look at real numbers for TNC software sales (4 msgs)
Looking for Mac Packett software, any out there? (2 msgs)
Personal Mail Box Software
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Date: 5 Oct 99 16:52:48 GMT
From: sv1uy@nest.sv1uy.ampr.ORG (Demetre Ch. Valaris)
Subject: BULLET FORWARDERS ARGUING
Dear Bullet Forwarders,
For God's sake will you stop arguing all the time!!!
You are just wasting bandwidth trying to prove god knows what.
Remember that some people pay money for nothing to see your endless
flames.
Please stop arguing for the sake of the argument. Do something
constructive. Stop attacking people if they express their opinion.
If you want to do something, go and do it first and then argue.
Be civilized! Grow up!!!
73 Demetre SV1UY
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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 10:06:10 -0500
From: "George T. Baker" <w5yr@swbell.net>
Subject: BULLET FORWARDERS ARGUING
Demetre, the fellows you are addressing bear witness to the fact that it
is much easier to sling mud on a newsgroup than to do something
constructive and then tell about it. And, it is also easier to make
excuses than progress.
Now, wait and see how many flames those statements attract! Should take
about 3 hours. ;^)
72/73, George AMA 98452 R/C since 1964
Amateur Radio W5YR, in the 54th year and it just keeps getting better!
AutoPOWER Systems, Fairview, TX (30 mi NE Dallas) Collin County
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"Demetre Ch. Valaris" wrote:
>
> Dear Bullet Forwarders,
>
> For God's sake will you stop arguing all the time!!!
> You are just wasting bandwidth trying to prove god knows what.
> Remember that some people pay money for nothing to see your endless
> flames.
> Please stop arguing for the sake of the argument. Do something
> constructive. Stop attacking people if they express their opinion.
> If you want to do something, go and do it first and then argue.
> Be civilized! Grow up!!!
>
> 73 Demetre SV1UY
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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 16:44:06 GMT
From: marsgal42@hotmail.com
Subject: Japanese packet radio hinted at on TAPR site.
In article <7tbos3$amb$1@harvee.billerica.ma.us>,
"Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us> wrote:
> (snip...)
> so, between the RF capabilities of cellular phones (which currently go
> as high as 1.9 GHz), linux, and ideas from these projects mentioned
> above, is there enough information out there to build reasonably
> performing full duplex radio links that are reproducible by amateurs
> or easily build by the likes of MFJ for the amateur community?
>
> Thoughts?
The Slovenian stuff (http://www.hamradio.si) is well-documented,
simple, and looks eminently reproduceable. They are on my Things
To Do Someday list.
The catch phrase seems to be "reproducible by amateurs". Too many
amateurs nowadays seem incapable of anything more technical than
plunking down a credit card.
--
Laura Halliday VA3LDH "Que les nuages soient notre pied
Grid: FN03gs a terre..." - Hospital/Shafte
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Before you buy.
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Date: 5 Oct 1999 12:22:38 GMT
From: Hamish Moffatt <hamish@rising.com.au>
Subject: Let's look at real numbers for TNC software sales
OK Hank, thanks for the very interesting explanation. All understood --
still not clearly where the argument is though.
Actually, I don't really understand your "power spread" term.
Hank Oredson <horedson@att.net> wrote:
> "Link Margin" - The amount of signal that must be provided by one Station
> at the other Station to obtain the desired link performance. For each link
> there are two "Link Margin" numbers. One for the signals from Station A
> as received at Station B, and another for the signals from Stations B as
> received at Station A.
Hmm. I would have called this the link budget; a set of figures
showing transmitted power, antenna gain (and hence EIRP), link loss,
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