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> 1. You do not have to quit your present job, to earn more money
> at home
> 2. You can make between $2,500 to $4,500 a month depending on the
> amount of time you are willing to spend stuffing and mailing
> envelopes
> 3. This is a great opportunity for the students, mothers,
> disabled persons or those who are home bodies.
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> To secure your position and to show us that you are serious about
> earning extra income at home we require a one-time registration
> fee of $35.00.
> This fee covers the cost of your initial start up package, which
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> shortly thereafter.
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> Many of you wonder why it is necessary to pay a deposit to get a
> job. It is because we are looking for people that seriously want
> to work from home.
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> * If 3.000 people told us they wanted to start working from home
> and we sent out 3.000 packages free to every one. And then half
> of the people decided not to work, this would be a potential loss
> of more than $60,000 in supply's and shipping that we have sent
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> We have instituted this policy to make sure that you really want
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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 02:19:09 +0800
From: "Lap" <klks@hknet.com>
Subject: how to setup and configuration ax.25 on the linux
I use redhat 6.0(the kernel 2.2.5-15). That have some packet radio app. I
think that is modules. I use "make menuconfig, make, make install" to setup
ax.25. But I don't see the ax.25 (howto)'s say file. I don't know to do
something. Please help.
lap (footfish@yahoo.com)
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:46:28 -0500
From: "Peter O. Brackett" <ab4bc@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Let's look at real numbers for TNC software sales
Charlie & rob:
Here's another little item of difference between Europe and Americal
telecoms pricing.
In almost all places in the world other than North America, local telephone
service is metered by the minute. This is certainly true all over Europe,
Asia and Latin America. Now in the USA local telephone service has been
available at a flat rate for all you can eat local service for 6 - 7
decades. Since Theodore Vail of AT&T sold Congress on the AT&T monopoly.
Thus in the USA we now enjoy a flat rate local telephone service at
approximately $20 per month in all 50 States.
We can call anywhere in our local cities (LATAs) and stay off hook on that
connection for 24 hours per day 7 days per week and all we are charged is
roughly $20 per month. Long distance of course is extra and charged by the
minute, nowadays in the USA you can get long distance service for 5 - 10
cents per minute anywhere in America.
Also we in the USA enjoy all you can eat Internet access service from over 6
thousand ISP's at $19.95 per month, roughly $20 per months as well.
So that . . . In the USA we can dial our local Internet access provider and
connect to the Internet at approximately 50 kbps (V.90) for 24 hours per
day, 7 days per week for only $40 per month! $20 local phone service plus
$20 local Internet access service.
Let me ask you Rob. . . . In comparison to the American pricing, of $40 per
month, in the Netherlands how much does a 24 hour by 7 day 50 kbps Internet
connection cost?
I hope you feel that you can share this pricing with us all here, because I
know what it costs and since I am a "Yank" I want to defer to you who are a
citizen of the EC and a Netherlander. Tell us. . . how much?
I believe that this artificially high governmentaly imposed cost/price alone
in Europe distorts the hapbits of European amateur packet radio operators.
Of course they still favor the use of amateur radio over the Internet.
But for how long will they do this after the prices reach world market
prices? I maintain that you will see the same effects that we have seen
here in America. The ham packet activity will wither!
We all must act now to save ham packet radio. Stop burying our heads in the
sand like Charles Brabbam and other Type B's. It is folly and will decimate
amateur packet radio.
Please tell us Rob . . .
Rob how much in the Netherlands for 24 x 7 Internet service? Please share
that with us.
Best Regards,
Peter AB4BC
Charles Brabham <n5pvl@texoma.net> wrote in message
news:7sdthn$29cn@enews3.newsguy.com...
>
> Peter O. Brackett <ab4bc@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:7sdbjl$cs4@dfw-ixnews13.ix.netcom.com...
> > Charles:
> >
> > Your heart is in the right place, and I love you for it, but you are
> wrong,
> > wrong, wrong.
> >
>
> Maybe someday your thinking will catch up with your heart.
>
> The only time I was really wrong was that time I thought I was wrong...
>
> --
>
> 73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
> N5PVL @ N5PVL.#NTX.TX.USA.NOAM
> http://www.texoma.net/~n5pvl
>
>
>
>.
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 06:31:29 -0500
From: "Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@texoma.net>
Subject: Let's look at real numbers for TNC software sales
Brian Kantor <brian@karoshi.ucsd.edu> wrote in message
news:7se4el$rm4$1@karoshi.ucsd.edu...
> So to sum up:
>
> Gary maintains that a network may well not be worth doing unless it is
> high performance.
....And since that is not practical, Gary maintains that it's "OK" to just
get on the Internet and PRETEND that that high-performance network exists.
This is much more important to Gary, as as ham, than using radio.
>
> Hank maintains that having a network that works at all is worth doing
> even if it will never achieve high performance.
....And since doing so is practical and can actually be done, Hank maintains
that it's silly to get on the Internet instead and PRETEND it is amateur
packet radio. Using radio is much more important to Hank, as a ham, than all
the juvenile telephone games ever invented.
>
> Since volunteers have limited time, each must choose between these two
> exclusive options. (Goodness knows we have enough bandwidth to support
> both.)
Especially since Gary's "system" does not use radio for anything except
local access, and uses "lets pretend on the telephone" for anything more
ambitious than that.
>
> Sounds like something for everybody. Choose and join!
>
> - Brian
>
> PS: I still haven't figured out what Charles wants.
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