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Ham-Digital Digest Tue, 21 Sep 99 Volume 99 : Issue 237
Today's Topics:
"NOSintro" (TCP/IP over Packet Radio) back in stock (3 msgs)
Advice TenTec Pegasus
DGPS MSK demodulation ???
FSK31, no not PSK31 (2 msgs)
Ham tcpip network = pipedream (6 msgs)
Help: Shutdown Fault with "Logger"
High Speed Packet(128k plus)
Let's look at real numbers for TNC software sales (3 msgs)
Lexington, Kentucky
Pactor software for soundcard ?
PSK31 and IC-706 (3 msgs)
QSL Maker
The Aplication Mantra
Those Wide, Open Spaces (3 msgs)
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:15:58 -0700
From: "Cathryn Mataga" <cathryn@junglevision.com>
Subject: "NOSintro" (TCP/IP over Packet Radio) back in stock
steve_sampson@my-deja.com wrote in message <7s54kr$8u6$1@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>
>> Okay, now I've heard of these cheap SS cards that are out there from
>> another source, but I'm still trying to track down what exactly people
>> are using. These things come out in the $500 price range -- so
>> that's close, but not quite the $120 price you mentioned.
>>
>> http://www.connectronics.com/rangelan.htm
>>
>> I assume different products from different manufacturers will be
>> incompatible -- right? Or will any SS card talk to any other --
>> are there standards for this? What cards are you using to
>> get the 4 mile range? Do you get 1 mega-bits/s with this?
>
>Try:
>
> http://www.proxim.com/symphony
>
>These are from the same company who makes rangelan, but are consumer
>grade (whatever that means).
>
>I don't think symphony cards use the new standard 802.something, and
>are probably not compatible with anything else. But then again,
>everything else is twice as expensive. The cards operate at 1.6 Mbps
>and 100 mW. That's not true full-duplex, but with spread spectrum,
>it's not really half-duplex either. It's fast.
Yeah, thanks. At $129, they do start to fall into my 'mad money' range,
for this kind of thing -- just to fuss around with, you know. I just need
to come up with another site in the SF Bay area, to link to. From an
anal-ham-radio-rules-lawyering perspective, is strictly legal to put
gain antennas on these guys -- or to put them up on towers? I could
see sticking one of those little ethernet bridge gizmos up on a mast.
Maybe a whole motherboard and net card could fit on a mast, though
that'd be a little unwieldy.
>.
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 20:07:35 -0700
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: "NOSintro" (TCP/IP over Packet Radio) back in stock
Cathryn Mataga <cathryn@junglevision.com> wrote in message
news:2kzF3.2135$1i3.35582@nuq-read.news.verio.net...
>
> steve_sampson@my-deja.com wrote in message
<7s54kr$8u6$1@nnrp1.deja.com>...
> >
> >> Okay, now I've heard of these cheap SS cards that are out there from
> >> another source, but I'm still trying to track down what exactly people
> >> are using. These things come out in the $500 price range -- so
> >> that's close, but not quite the $120 price you mentioned.
> >>
> >> http://www.connectronics.com/rangelan.htm
> >>
> >> I assume different products from different manufacturers will be
> >> incompatible -- right? Or will any SS card talk to any other --
> >> are there standards for this? What cards are you using to
> >> get the 4 mile range? Do you get 1 mega-bits/s with this?
> >
> >Try:
> >
> > http://www.proxim.com/symphony
> >
> >These are from the same company who makes rangelan, but are consumer
> >grade (whatever that means).
> >
> >I don't think symphony cards use the new standard 802.something, and
> >are probably not compatible with anything else. But then again,
> >everything else is twice as expensive. The cards operate at 1.6 Mbps
> >and 100 mW. That's not true full-duplex, but with spread spectrum,
> >it's not really half-duplex either. It's fast.
>
>
> Yeah, thanks. At $129, they do start to fall into my 'mad money' range,
> for this kind of thing -- just to fuss around with, you know. I just need
> to come up with another site in the SF Bay area, to link to. From an
> anal-ham-radio-rules-lawyering perspective, is strictly legal to put
> gain antennas on these guys -- or to put them up on towers? I could
> see sticking one of those little ethernet bridge gizmos up on a mast.
> Maybe a whole motherboard and net card could fit on a mast, though
> that'd be a little unwieldy.
These radios run in ham bands?
If not, then what do ham radio rules have to do with anything.
Oh, just ONE little thing: the FCC has been known to suspend
ham licenses for violations in other services.
--
... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
>.
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 21:01:53 -0700
From: "Cathryn Mataga" <cathryn@junglevision.com>
Subject: "NOSintro" (TCP/IP over Packet Radio) back in stock
Hank Oredson wrote in message <7s6sos$28u$1@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
>
>> >Try:
>> >
>> > http://www.proxim.com/symphony
>> >
>> >These are from the same company who makes rangelan, but are consumer
>> >grade (whatever that means).
>> >
>> >I don't think symphony cards use the new standard 802.something, and
>> >are probably not compatible with anything else. But then again,
>> >everything else is twice as expensive. The cards operate at 1.6 Mbps
>> >and 100 mW. That's not true full-duplex, but with spread spectrum,
>> >it's not really half-duplex either. It's fast.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, thanks. At $129, they do start to fall into my 'mad money' range,
>> for this kind of thing -- just to fuss around with, you know. I just
need
>> to come up with another site in the SF Bay area, to link to. From an
>> anal-ham-radio-rules-lawyering perspective, is strictly legal to put
>> gain antennas on these guys -- or to put them up on towers? I could
>> see sticking one of those little ethernet bridge gizmos up on a mast.
>> Maybe a whole motherboard and net card could fit on a mast, though
>> that'd be a little unwieldy.
>
>These radios run in ham bands?
>
>If not, then what do ham radio rules have to do with anything.
>Oh, just ONE little thing: the FCC has been known to suspend
>ham licenses for violations in other services.
Here's the data from their website. Yes, I believe the 2.4Ghz band that
they use for these radios is primarily in the ham band n the website
it says that the 'actual frequencies' vary by country. So, I'm not sure
exactly how close a match this is. There may be some bits of the
spread spectrum used that are outside of amateur frequencies. Isn't
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