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Ham-Digital Digest          Mon, 20 Sep 99       Volume 99 : Issue  236

Today's Topics:
     "NOSintro" (TCP/IP over Packet Radio) back in stock (2 msgs)
                     Anyone tried RadioCom 4.0???
                          ATTENTION!!!  9939
                      DGPS MSK demodulation ???
                     FSK31, no not PSK31 (4 msgs)
                  FullDup RF links, anyone? (2 msgs)
                Ham tcpip network = pipedream (3 msgs)
             Help: Shutdown Fault with "Logger" (4 msgs)
               HF PACKET WITH BLASTER CARD!!! (2 msgs)
                     High Speed Packet(128k plus)
          Let's look at real numbers for TNC software sales
                      PSK31 and IC-706 (3 msgs)
                        Rf network = pipedream

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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 14:16:10 -0700
From: "Cathryn Mataga" <cathryn@junglevision.com>
Subject: "NOSintro" (TCP/IP over Packet Radio) back in stock

steve_sampson@my-deja.com wrote in message <7qbhoe$16o$1@nnrp1.deja.com>...

>You see, that is where your emotional fixation on TAPR has blinded you.
>You keep whining about TAPR this, and TAPR that, and even some of the
>men who currently make up the company.  TAPR is insignificant when
>compared to companies like Kenwood, Yaesu, and Alinco.  They also are
>insignificant to companies like Proxim.  When I speak about SS, I'm
>talking about Proxim and Lucent.  Both have products now in the $120
>class.  That is, an ethernet card replacement (radio and TNC to you).
>The coax I used, cost more than the two SS products I used.
>
>I currently have two of these running 4 miles.  If I had more altitude
>I could get better range.  So, not only can SS be used point to point,
>it can be used in a LAN.  Right now I must operate under Part 95 rules,
>because the Part 97 rules are 20 years behind technology.  If Part 97
>was corrected (as TAPR is in the trenches fighting for, not Chuckles
>Brabham by the way) then I could use cheaper coax and amplifiers to
>span the whole state.
>
>Steve

Okay, now I've heard of these cheap SS cards that are out there from
another source, but I'm still trying to track down what exactly people
are using.   These things come out in the $500 price range -- so that's
close, but not quite the $120 price you mentioned.

http://www.connectronics.com/rangelan.htm

I assume different products from different manufacturers will be
incompatible -- right?  Or will any SS card talk to any other --
are there standards for this?   What cards are you using to
get the 4 mile range?   Do you get 1 mega-bits/s with this?



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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 11:09:20 GMT
From: steve_sampson@my-deja.com
Subject: "NOSintro" (TCP/IP over Packet Radio) back in stock

> Okay, now I've heard of these cheap SS cards that are out there from
> another source, but I'm still trying to track down what exactly people
> are using.   These things come out in the $500 price range -- so
> that's close, but not quite the $120 price you mentioned.
>
> http://www.connectronics.com/rangelan.htm
>
> I assume different products from different manufacturers will be
> incompatible -- right?  Or will any SS card talk to any other --
> are there standards for this?   What cards are you using to
> get the 4 mile range?   Do you get 1 mega-bits/s with this?

Try:

  http://www.proxim.com/symphony

These are from the same company who makes rangelan, but are consumer
grade (whatever that means).

I don't think symphony cards use the new standard 802.something, and
are probably not compatible with anything else.  But then again,
everything else is twice as expensive.  The cards operate at 1.6 Mbps
and 100 mW.  That's not true full-duplex, but with spread spectrum,
it's not really half-duplex either.  It's fast.

Steve


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Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 13:41:04 -0400
From: Ralph Mowery <rmowery@dialpoint.net>
Subject: Anyone tried RadioCom 4.0???

Try here for sound card programs.

http://www.muenster.de/%7Ewelp/sb.htm


I have tried the btl program under win98 on a very cheap motherboard
that has the sound built in and even though it is a dos programs the btl
program works under win98.  

I also tried the ftv program for cw ,but can not remember if it was
under dos or win98.


ke8hh@arrl.net wrote:
> 
>         The demo for RadioCom 4.0 _looks_ like it would have some useful
> features (Windows 98 interface, cw & rtty send/receive using the sound
> card, etc.)--but unlike any other demo this one doesn't actually operate
> your station, it just provides a "mock-up" of the operation with dummy
> data.
> 
>         Since (obviously) this provides no opportunity whatever to
> determine what the program is actually like in operation, I would be
> interested to know if anyone has actually purchased/used the software
> and if so how well it works. In particular, I would be using it with a
> Yaesu FT-920 connected to a Gateway GX-450xl box with dual xeon
> processors and the SoundBlaster AudioPCI 64D soundcard (which works
> great with ChromaPix using the interface design provided on the
> ChromaPix site). The computer is already set up to control the rig via
> TRX-Manager and has no problems with that operation either.
> 
>         My major interest is in finding a Windows 98 compatible program
> that uses the sound card to send/receive cw & rtty (I've tried CW Get &
> CW Put--CW Get I've had "mixed" results with [it copies, but with an
> enormous number of errors compared to, for example, an MFJ-1278B] and CW
> didn't work with my system [required a HamComm interface???]).I haven't
> found any other cw programs for the windows environment and the only
> rtty program I've found at all is dos based. RadioCom 4.0 _appears_ to
> be suited to my needs (recommendations for any other applications that
> would handle these modes would be _very_ welcome--particularly if they
> have demos or shareware versions that you can try before buying as did
> all the ham software [TRX-Manager, Logic5, ChromaPix, etc.] I currently
> own) as would feedback on RadioCom 4.0 itself.


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