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Bob, VK6BE, predictably postulated:-

> Give it a rest David. You know nothing. 

There you go again - another example of your "common good manners".

If you were more objective you'd realise that it isn't me who you are
saying is ignorant. I'm not sure which of the HREOC FAQs that I quoted
verbatim, you don't understand.

As a teacher in today's Australia, you'd not only need to be conversant
with this but to give it your unequivocal support, and teach children to
understand and engage with it.
 
On the one hand, we have your homespun wisdom, which - on this matter as
on most, including your amateur radio regs, has proved misleading and
skewed. It only ever consists of your subjective views, never underpinned
with any factual information from reputed sources.

On the other hand we have: 

HREOC, 
All side of the present government, 
The Australian Anglican Church, 
A Royal Commission, 
The Australian Medical Association, 
A Supreme Court Justice...

In fact just about every body of informed learned opinion in Australia.

It's these eminent Australians who your are rubbishing - not me.

It seems very unpatriotic.

Perhaps the most surreal aspect is that Bob tells us how involved he 
is in the Church, yet it emerges that he is diametrically opposed 
to the Anglican Church of Australia's stance and recent media release, 
in which they praised Keating's far-sighted Redfern Park statement.

Bob's are entitled to his opinions, but they don't reflect the stance of
either the Anglican Church or the Teaching Profession - the two bodies
with whom he most readily identifies.

This is probably the most intensively researched and reported human rights
topic except for the Holocaust. There's no reputable body of opinion which
comes even close to supporting Bob's version of events.

>I happened to be a teacher. 

So you keep telling us, with no sense of irony. 

But then as I've said, anyone who left school before about 
1980 won't have been taught anything about human rights. 

The White Australia Policy only ended in 1973, the Racial Discrimination
Act only came in 1975. You said racism fizzled out in Oz forty years ago,
yet the forcible removal of Indigenous children didn't cease until 1970,
nor the White Australia policy. 

Indigenous people weren't even classed as citizens until 1967.

Not only did racism exist, it was official government policy. 
Anyone over 60 grew up with it and left school before the policies 
came to an end. The effects are still very evident today.

I'd reiterate the words of Elliott Johnson, AO, QC, Supreme Court Justice,
South Australia, Royal Commission National Commissioner - "The Legacy of
History" (Chapter 10);

Quote:

"Until the 1970s the history taught in our schools portrayed Aboriginal
people as a doomed and primitive race who were not part of Australian
society, except as recipients of non-Aboriginal benevolence".

End quote.

Shocking.

I guess you'll be saying that Elliott Johnson AO, QC, Supreme Court
Justice, is yet another eminent Australian who doesn't know what he's
talking about. 

But today, kids and their teachers are taught to know better. If you 
were a teacher now, writing as you do, you'd have to alter your views 
in very short order.

Although Indigenous children were supposedly receiving a good education
and opportunities for the future, most received just enough education to
prepare them for menial labour. 

Bob won't be alone in his outlook on this, but before he writes any more
adversarial bulls, he'd do well to calm down and access the information,
reports and teaching resources with which he'd now be required to be
familiar with and use in the classroom.

I repeat that you'll find it in the Social Justice Library of HREOC at:

http://www.hreoc.gov.au/social_justice/bth_report/index.html

> I  knew the situation. You don't.

Utterly clueless, and totally lacking in empathy.

You and your ilk are being left behind on this.

Are you no longer interested in the teaching profession? What I quoted was
verbatim from the FAQs on the Human Rights and Equal Opportunities
Website. 
Here's the link to the FAQs again:

http://www.hreoc.gov.au/social_justice/bth_report/about/faqs.html

Whether Bob cares about this or not, the findings of the Bringing Them 
Home Report undoubtedly had a profound effect on the Australian public. 

The Report detailed unquestionable evidence about the forced removal of
thousands of Indigenous children from their families and communities.

When the knowledge of these policies became public the National Sorry Day
Committee united the Australian public in a grass roots movement that
shifted the Nation.

Not my words - theirs.

http://www.nsdc.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=
25

Fact:

The Bringing Them Home Report is selling 
more copies than any comparable report.

Hundreds and Thousands of non-Indigenous 
Australians have signed Sorry Books

Many thousands of Australians have attended 
Sorry Day commemorative events

Over 1,500,000 Australians - about 1 in 10 adults, have walked 
bridges in support of the Stolen Generations and Reconciliation 

Bob should check out the teaching resources on HREOC's website with which
he'd have to be familiar in today's world. Does he not want to know what's
going on in his own country? 

Come up to speed Bob, please. 

I keep pointing you in the right direction. 

Best wishes 
David, G4EBT @ GB7FCR

Cottingham, East Yorkshire.

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