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Bent,

>I then read the following p-p values (I do use radio port 1):
>
>TP1:     +2.2 -2.4 V
>U202-7:  +3.6 -4.8 V
>U203-3:  +200 -240 mV
>U203-11: +200 -240 mV
>Discriminator output: ~500 mV
>
>These measurements are taken with the scope in DC mode and it turns
>out that the swing is not quite symmetrical. The first measurements
>were taken in AC mode.

Are these values in a situation where you see clipping?

Other than the lower than expected values, is it causing a problem?
We have observed that about 1V p-p at TP1 is all that should be applied to
the AIO chip. Above that value, clipping ocurrs in the digitizing process.

The non-symmetry has been seen before by W0SL.

Roy, does this appear to be similar to the asymmetry you saw. How did you
finally resolve that?


Ron W5RKN

also:
w5rkn@amsat.org



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Bent,

>I then read the following p-p values (I do use radio port 1):
>
>TP1:     +2.2 -2.4 V
>U202-7:  +3.6 -4.8 V
>U203-3:  +200 -240 mV
>U203-11: +200 -240 mV
>Discriminator output: ~500 mV
>
>These measurements are taken with the scope in DC mode and it turns
>out that the swing is not quite symmetrical. The first measurements
>were taken in AC mode.

Are these values in a situation where you see clipping?

Other than the lower than expected values, is it causing a problem?
We have observed that about 1V p-p at TP1 is all that should be applied to
the AIO chip. Above that value, clipping ocurrs in the digitizing process.

The non-symmetry has been seen before by W0SL.

Roy, does this appear to be similar to the asymmetry you saw. How did you
finally resolve that?


Ron W5RKN

also:
w5rkn@amsat.org



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From: Roy Welch <rdw@crl.com>
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Subject: [DSP-93:517] Re: +- 2.2 V p-p
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On Thu, 23 Mar 1995, Ronald G. Parsons wrote:

> Bent,
> 
> >I then read the following p-p values (I do use radio port 1):
> >
> >TP1:     +2.2 -2.4 V
> >U202-7:  +3.6 -4.8 V
> >U203-3:  +200 -240 mV

Isn't the above pin supposed to be -5v supply (U203-3)?


> >U203-11: +200 -240 mV
> >Discriminator output: ~500 mV
> >
> >These measurements are taken with the scope in DC mode and it turns
> >out that the swing is not quite symmetrical. The first measurements
> >were taken in AC mode.
> 
> Are these values in a situation where you see clipping?
> 
> Other than the lower than expected values, is it causing a problem?
> We have observed that about 1V p-p at TP1 is all that should be applied to
> the AIO chip. Above that value, clipping ocurrs in the digitizing process.
> 
> The non-symmetry has been seen before by W0SL.
> 
> Roy, does this appear to be similar to the asymmetry you saw. How did you
> finally resolve that?

I'm not sure, but I suggest looking at the DC voltage on U208-8 (REF).  
Seems like it was around 3.2 volts, but not sure .  Check it for stability.  
Also mine cleared up after resoldering C208, the bypass for that pin.
Also push the U208-8 pin while the chip is in the socket and see if any 
fluxuations are seen.  The voltage on this pin should be very stable.

73, Roy


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>On Thu, 23 Mar 1995, Ronald G. Parsons wrote:
>
>> Bent,
>>
>> >I then read the following p-p values (I do use radio port 1):
>> >
>> >TP1:     +2.2 -2.4 V
>> >U202-7:  +3.6 -4.8 V
>> >U203-3:  +200 -240 mV
>
>Isn't the above pin supposed to be -5v supply (U203-3)?

I think he meant U202-3.


Ron W5RKN

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Hello all from a newbie to Internet!

I've been interested in the DSP-93 project for a while. Does anyone have
any doc files on constructing the kit and/or doc files on a more fuller 
description than the tapr info I received some time ago.

I'd also like some help on how to get files from the listproc at tapr.
Ive tried a few times and got errors in my replies!

Does the DSP-93 software lie on the tapr ftp site? and if so does it have
doc files descibing the software?
 
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>Hello all from a newbie to Internet!
>
>I've been interested in the DSP-93 project for a while. Does anyone have
>any doc files on constructing the kit and/or doc files on a more fuller
>description than the tapr info I received some time ago.
>
>I'd also like some help on how to get files from the listproc at tapr.
>Ive tried a few times and got errors in my replies!


DSP-93 Archive
--------------
Past messages from the DSP-93 list are availble in the TAPR.ORG archives.
Send mail to `listserv@tapr.org` with the following in the message body:

index dsp93

To get files from the archive, send e-mail to 'listserv@tapr.org' with the
following in the message body:

get dsp93 filename

where filename is the name of the file you are request.

Also try:

help

Hope this helps!


Ron W5RKN

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w5rkn@amsat.org



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In-Reply-To: <9503222107.0TOKT00@partyline.org> from "wtb@partyline.org" at Mar
22, 95 10:06:23 pm

According to wtb@partyline.org:
> 
> 
> Bob
> The data from the St. Louis get together has been received and
> is greatly appreciated, however, the disk has only one file on
> it and has no meaning.  The file is a directory file of zero bytes
> and the rest of the disk is blank?????
> Bill  N0LIK
> 
Is this a bad news message or what? Does not sound like something I can
blame on American.

I have one of the disk here and it looks fine. Make that two disk that I
have which look fine.

Hopefully yours just did not copy. If I post the diskas a ZIP file on the
FTP site for TAPR can you get it this way?

Do others have this problem?

Bob Stricklin, N5BRG



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