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LW9EEA > CB       16.03.96 04:16l 94 Lines 3434 Bytes #-10434 (0) @ WW
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Subj: CP LW9EEA: Re: CB/27MHz stations on VHF/packet?
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From: LW9EEA@LW7EDS.MDP.BA.ARG.SA
To  : CB@WW

Original from LW9EEA to LA8AK@LA9K.KRS.K.NOR.EU
Dear OM's around the world,

  I have seen a lot of chat over the problem of CB mail mixing up in HAM
networks. And I do agree "it IS a PROBLEM"!
  But I'd like to clear up a few points that I am sick of hearing!!

>From: LA8AK@LA9K.KRS.K.NOR.EU
>To  : SYSOP@EU
>
>
>during the last few days I have discovered 5 messages from CB stations in the
>packet forward system.
>They have come from internet mailboxes to packet network via SM7DLZ and other.

Correction has to be made here. If you had study this a little more you would
find that Packet in certain European countries is in FACT completely LEGAL!
Countries such as Holland, Germany & Denmark. I am sure many other will
follow, next two will probably the UK and Austria. So you see it is perfectly
alright to have an NL3FL @ NL3FL.ZH.NLD.EU.

>Such messages are not illegal on internet, but they are indeed so on packet

See above!

>I am surprised to learn that stns taking messages from internet do so without
>any inspection. 

Then these operators are MORE to blame than operator on CB !  If they cannot be
responsible SysOp's; should they be SysOp's? 

>Last year we had a discussion about how to remove CB messages from the packet
>network, but they are back here about 3 months later, and they are even
>collected by stns who we should have thought were more interested to keep them
>out!

Well I think that's good! I do believe that CB and HAM network should and can
ever be mix. 

>I believe the NL suffix is used by radio amateurs in USA, and ... it is used
>for CB in Nederland! This makes reject somewhat more complicated, and it is
>still a 2-letter suffix.
>
>Below is a list of the hierarchical addresses I could find, based on the 5
>messages found and some experience from last years CB messages, my memory is
>perhaps not too inclusive, perhaps there are lots of suffixes which I have
>forgotten to check?
>
>interesting to see that '/' is used in CB addresses
>I believe you can remove all messages from the CB-stations mentioned, but be
>careful not to remove all NL suffix stns, NL7... seems to be normal suffix in
>USA.
>EL7BBS @EL7BBS.VELUWE.NLD.EU  Apeldoorn
>GER1MP @OV1BBS.OV.NLD.EU
>HPK2IN @BBS25V.DK2500.SJL.DNK.EU 
>I3VICE @I3VICE.VI.VNT.SP/G.ITA.EU  VICENZA
>IT3CHE @I3VICE.VI.VNT.SP/G.ITA.EU 
>KR1HBM @DBX500.AC.NRW.DEU.EU 
>NL1RDD @UT1BBS.UT.NLD.EU
>NL1TEQ @K1MBBS.WI.AT.EU 
>NL1TER @K1MBBS.WI.AT.EU 
>NL3DFT @NL3DFT.ZH.NLD.EU  Delft
>NL3FL  @NL3FL.ZH.NLD.EU  DEN HAAG
>NL3LW  @NL3LW.ZHNET.NLD.EU  DELFT
>NL3ONB @NL3ONB.HGL.NLD.EU  Den Haag
>NL3RTD @NL3RTD.ZH.NLD.EU  Rotterdam-Noord
>NL3RTD @NL3RTD.ZH.NLD.EU  Rotterdam-Noord
>NL3TWT @NL3TWT.OV.NLD.EU hoge hexel
>XX1APD @XX1APD.VELUWE.NLD.EU 
>
>73 de jan-martin
>
>ÿ

Well dear Jan-Martin and others, on the whole I agree, something has to be
done about the problem of cb mail on HAM networks... I think we should start
first of all with those SysOp's whom carelessly download file on the Inet! But
please, above all, get the facts right, CB packet is legal and have just the
same rights are we do to broadcast packet on CB as we do on HAM QRG's. So let
that rest, and concerntrate on how all SysOp's can work together to filter
these legal CB messages!

I'M OPEN TO COMMENTS...

Thank you for your attention.
Alberto / LW9EEA / Mar del Plata.
LW9EEA @ LW5DGM.MDP.BA.ARG.SA
LO19 / KO-23 / UO22 



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