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SM7UZI > BPQ 17.08.99 10:38l 124 Lines 5738 Bytes #-9921 (0) @ EU
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Subj: Re: SM7UZI - please give it a rest
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To : BPQ@EU
sm3lks wrote:
>...snip...
>>>The job BPQ does, is the same as any NetRom-node.
>>More or less.
>>But bpq is the net/rom node used here, so it is bpq that should be raplaced.
>If the job they do is the same, then we shall replace all NET/ROM-nodes.
>(Not a very likely thing to do)
The net/rom network is not that good that you can be routed very long any way.
It works more like local networks, so if some of them is replaced with
something else will it only make everything better.
The net/rom network in Sweden is only crap!
>>Why do you compare to other old net/rom nodes?
>The comparison is made to the most common node-type still in action.
>(Worldwide and nationwide)
Yes but replacing them with some other node, would only be good.
So talking about what the reasons for using the different modern nodes would be
more interesting.
The other nodes have been created to replace net/rom nodes since they are no
good. But how should that be done?
>>If there should be any change of node software should it be to a
>>modern node, not some other out dated node.
>>Bpq is the most used net/rom node around.
>I don't think so.
You don't.
I don't know really know either.
>I think the larger part of NET/ROM-nodes is TNC-2 (or compatible) with
>NET/ROM-firmware. I don't think a computer, that may crash, has replaced
>over 50% of the nodes yet, making BPQ the most used NET/ROM-node.
Bpq is very much used on bbs systems as combined packet driver and node.
>TNC-2-nodes are still in majority.
Yes maybe, but also they should be replaced!
They are not much better than bpq.
The tnc2 is not suitlabe for node work any more, it is to slow for handeling a
good node and apcket driver.
Could be used with 6pack and som computer based packet driver or so, but not
as a stand alone tnc.
>NET/ROM-nodes were originally, and still are, intended as unattended
>24h/day-link-stations, often in remote areas, connecting several local networks
>They were not intended as a frontend to your personal packet-computer that
>only are up for a few hours a day.
Bpq is used like that!
And that is aproblem that makes the routing work bad, nodes popup and
disapears.
>If you use NET/ROM-nodes as they were intended to be used, you have no
>problems with routing-tables etc...
That is not very realistic, since net/rom node ise used by many users.
And I would still have since the routing information is updated to seldom for
the routingto work good, the traffic load etc change more often than one each
half hour or what ever time it is between the routing information beacon is
sent out.
>If you are looking for a personal-"node" that you can use only a few hours
>a day, and not corrupting the routing-tables, you could use FlexNet, or
>TCP/IP that is a far better choice.
Why should I use anode like that?
To make the life harder for my fellow hams?
With flexnet can't that even be done!
For a flexnet node to appear in the node table, must the operator of
the neighbour node set up a link to the node and he don't do that to a node
that are not up 24h a day.
You would not have any such nodes in a flexnet network.
>>>You keep saying that BPQ uses a bad packetdriver.
>>>Do you mean KISS ?
>>No, the part of bpq that handles the ax25 communication, not net/rom.
>OK, please explain to us all what you mean with "packetdriver", in words
>that everyone understands.
The software with an interface to the modem driver, and a interface to your
terminal, bbs, node etc which handels the ax25 communication.
Like the flexnet.exe part of flexnet.
Tfx, tfpcx, tfkiss, tf2.7b are both modem drivers,hostmode and packet drivers
in one software.
>>flexnet.
>>It seems to me that since flexnet is the easiest node to set up etc would
>>be the one that is most suitable for every node.
>If you don't force us to use FlexNet, why do you keep saying thay we
>should use it, instead of other software ?
I think it would be the best for our packet network.
What node software do you think is the best and why?
>If you still don't think you are trying to make us use FlexNet, why do
>you keep starting these discussions about how good FlexNet are?
I'm trying to convince you to use, but not forceing you!
I want you t realise why the old net/rom should be replaced with something
else.
I think flexnet would be nice, but you maybe prefer some other node?
> so good tthat we should use it instead of other packet-programs.
It is very good as both pacekt driver for a bbs and as node!
>And just because it it easy to setup does not make it the most suitable
>node to use. It has to have more features that just an easy setup.
The adaptive parameters makes is easy to set up and also very good!
So it is both the best packet driver avalaible and easy to setup!
>It seems to me that only FlexNet exists as a packet-program that works
>in your world.
No, but net/rom is not what should be used, not in my world, neither in the
real world.
X-net and also thenetnode (not that good but much better then
old net/rom) works fine.
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