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Today's Topics:
1. Re: APRS and the Interstates (Eric Weber)
2. RE: APRS and the Interstates (Rusty Hemenway)
3. RE: Kansas APRS SAR? (Ian)
4. Re: APRS and the Interstates (Jason D. Triolo)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 18:24:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Eric Weber <webmanou812_at_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS and the Interstates
--- Robert Bruninga <bruninga_at_usna.edu> wrote:
>The biggest bang for the buck is the Interstates.
..........edit........
>serve the traveling ham community where they need it most.
>
>APRS is a "service". Invest in it even if you don't use it...
>
>Bob, WB4APR
On that note, I live 10 miles from Interstate with a Digi right along
it.....What would you like to see as your traveling down Interstate? What
objects, etc would be beneficial?
I know I'll get 20 different answers, but what would be nice to have?
Thanks,
Eric
kc0ahk
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 19:11:13 -0700
From: "Rusty Hemenway" <rhemen_at_roadrunner.com>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] APRS and the Interstates
Eric
I'd love to have the freq/pl of a wide area repeater (possibly one with
Skywarn)
Rusty
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 22:46:09 -0500
From: "Ian" <ik7565_at_verizon.net>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] Kansas APRS SAR?
Coordination sounds like a great idea. Could be really useful in both busy
and not so busy areas.
Ian N8IK
-----Original Message-----
>
>Ian wrote:
>
>>What does it mean to "coordinate" a digipeater? Are these all WIDE digis
>>with enough distance between them?
>>
>>73, Ian N8IK
>
>I'll answer that one... Back in 1994 the major digipeater owners in
>western Missouri and south/southwest Iowa met at a truck stop in
>Eagleville, Missouri. The purpose of that meeting was to coordinate our
>digipeater placements so we could manage the number of WIDE's and place
>them in strategic locations (high ground, good antennas, reasonable
>spacing). At this time APRS was in its infancy in this region of the
>country.
>
>KU0G (your humble responder) was User #1 in the Kansas City area, first
>going on-the-air in January, 1993. That was soon followed by the
>installation of Kansas City's first WIDE (WV0T-9). Mike Rosenbloom
>(N0GGU) and another ham related to him (I think it was his dad but don't
>hold me to that) already had a system of four WIDES covering the area
>from Graham, MO, well up into Iowa. We all got together and discussed
>how best to cover the primary highways to allow a mobile to pick up
>coverage from the next WIDE just as he would be running out of the
>coverage circle of the last one. From those plans grew the first
>"coordination" of APRS Digipeaters (anywhere in the U.S. that I'm aware of).
>
>Shortly after this (January, 1995) a group of interest hams met in my
>home and chartered the Kansas City APRS Working Group and established
>the club to promote APRS and help build the network of digipeaters in
>this area. We also established the KCAWG website at www.kcaprs.org.
>Unfortunately, being not too familiar with domain name ownership our
>domain name was not registered as OWNED by the club and after an effort
>on the club's part to migrate to a new server we were locked out by the
>gentleman (and I use that term LOOSELY) who had been providing the
>website server space. He refused to relinquish control and we didn't
>have the $2000 up-front bond required to initiate a dispute of ownership
>with ICATE (is that the right acronym for the people who control all
>domains and so forth?).
>
>Fast forward to 2002... By this time there were a number of digipeaters
>starting to crop up and KCAWG began serving as a coordinating body for
>APRS digipeaters. While nobody was ever turned down, we wanted to ensure
>that we didn't end up with a WIDE on every corner and that such
>digipeaters would meet certain coverage standards before being certified
>as "coordinated." KCAWG was loosely responsible for coordinating
>digipeaters within a 120 mile radius of Kansas City. While we really
>weren't interested in anything beyond a reasonable reach of KC,
>primarily because we didn't feel that it was appropriate to reach beyond
>the range of our primary operating area we did end up as somewhat of a
>clearing house for APRS digipeaters in Missouri and Kansas.
>
>Just prior to the highjacking of the clubs website and domain name we
>had actually begun formally registering digipeaters, hence the table
>your see in the current website. The initial information in that table
>was started by me in 2000. They even had the audacity to place the
>KCAWG's callsign (W0APR) on their website trying to make it look like
>just a friendly change of direction by the club. Needless to say, they
>were told to remove the call as they were not approved to use it by the
>KCAWG (which still exists, on paper at least!).
>
>FWIW: I had a "keep my mouth shut" agreement (verbal) with the guys who
>instigated the website take-over (they weren't even members of KCAWG!)
>which was given with the understanding that at a point six months to a
>year down the road that I would be brought into the "new organization."
>Suffice it to say, THEIR part of the bargain hasn't been kept and I no
>longer feel any particular reason to keep my end after waiting for 3
>years for an invitation that is obviously not coming nor was probably
>never planned to come!
>
>OK, that's probably a MUCH longer answer than you wanted but, as Paul
>Harvey says: "Now you know the REST of the story!"
>
>Jim Duncan, KU0G
>Chairman and Coordinator
>Kansas City APRS Working Group
>
>P.S. Now people will understand a little more why I have been very low
>key on APRS the past three years (of course graduate school and two
>advanced degrees played SOME part!)...
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 00:45:27 -0400
From: "Jason D. Triolo" <jasonacg_at_citicom.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS and the Interstates
Rusty Hemenway wrote:
>Eric
>
>I'd love to have the freq/pl of a wide area repeater (possibly one with
>Skywarn)
I agree with that. Once we have a repeater frequency, we can get just
about anything else we need. Provided, that is, someone is actually
monitoring the repeater.
73 de Jason, KD4ACG
www.fieldcomm.org/aprs
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