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Today's Topics:
1. Registering OC30 and MAPOCX > Windows Vista Ultimate (Jim Duncan)
2. Re: D7's,D700's and TinyTrak (Brian B. Riley)
3. Re: Registering OC30 and MAPOCX > Windows Vista Ultimate (Keith VE7GDH)
4. Re: Registering OC30 and MAPOCX > Windows Vista Ultimate (Jim Duncan)
5. Re: Registering OC30 and MAPOCX > Windows Vista Ultimate (Stephen H. Smith)
6. Re: Registering OC30 and MAPOCX > Windows Vista Ultimate (Keith VE7GDH)
7. javaprs port that doesn't send a "keepalive" packet? (Tapio Sokura)
8. RE: javaprs port that doesn't send a "keepalive" packet? (AE5PL Lists)
9. One-Wire, Opentracker troubleshoot (Bob Cutter)
10. Re: javaprs port that doesn't send a "keepalive" packet? (Gregg Wonderly)
11. RE: javaprs port that doesn't send a "keepalive" packet? (AE5PL Lists)
12. RE: One-Wire, Opentracker troubleshoot ('Scott Miller')
13. RE: One-Wire, Opentracker troubleshoot (Don Moore)
14. RE: One-Wire, Opentracker troubleshoot (Bob Cutter)
15. RE: One-Wire, Opentracker troubleshoot ('Scott Miller')
16. RE: Registering OC30 and MAPOCX > Windows Vista Ultimate (Herb Gerhardt)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:49:00 -0500
From: Jim Duncan <jdbandman_at_earthlink.net>
Subject: [aprssig] Registering OC30 and MAPOCX > Windows Vista Ultimate
Hey, Mark and/or Keith...
With XP there was a special procedure to get the two files for PM3.0
operational. Have you done anything with Vista yet? Any guidance on how
to get the OC30.dll and MAPOCX.ocx files to register and get PM up and
running?
Thanks!
--
73 de Jim Duncan, KU0G
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:47:32 -0400
From: "Brian B. Riley" <brianbr_at_mac.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] D7's,D700's and TinyTrak
Whooee, you must have thin skin if you found that insulting.
Now a PICAXE 08M could have 3-4 serial ports and that is the little 8 pin
critter. A BS2 has 16 pins and theoretically each of them could do serial.
If you consider a 'port' to be to be bidirectional, at two pins per 'port'
that gets you 8 ports on a BS2. If you are rolling in bucks you could do a
BS2P40 and that has 32 i/o pins and that would get you 16 ports.
That said, for anything beyond Wes' original implementation you are right
that a Stamp won't do the job. However, it doesn't have anything to do with
the number of ports. A Basic Stamp, even the on-steroids BS2PX would have
a hernia handling serial i/o on several io ports simultaneously.
I went back and reread your explanation and appears to me only to add more
complexity without ever addressing the original flaw which lies in how the
D700 does things... and before you run off with your jockey shorts in a
knot (yes that is mildly insulting) what I am doing is criticizing what I
saw as flaws in your proposal and pointing out that it had been done years
ago and found lacking. If you and your idea cannot stand up to peer review
then why should anyone take it serious? If indeed you have thought of a
better way then restate your thesis and show us how it resolves/bypasses
the underlying D700 problem.
---
cheers... 73 de brian riley, n1bq, underhill center, vermont
Home of the
K107 Serial LCD Controller Kit FT817 Power Conditioner Kit
Tab Robot Laser Tag Kit MSP430 Chips and Connectors
Propeller Robot Controller SX48 "Tech Board" Kit
On Mar 19, 2007, at 12:34 PM, Alex Carver wrote:
>Thanks a lot for that vote of confidence and support.
>
>
>Why should anyone bother sharing information when the
>end result is getting kicked with an insult? Maybe I
>had a better idea than what Wes Jonhston did with a
>Basic Stamp? I certainly wasn't planning on using a
>Stamp because it doesn't have enough serial ports (I
>need at least three).
>
>Yes, I do know that the display dumps out from various
>modes back to the home frequency display if it
>receives certain commands via the serial port. But, I
>had planned around that problem because I've run into
>it on more than one occasion when a laptop was plugged
>into the radio and I was trying to do something on the
>display but the laptop interrupted.
>
>>Message: 8
>>Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 10:04:17 -0400
>>From: "Brian B. Riley" <brianbr_at_mac.com>
>>Subject: Re: [aprssig] D7's,D700's and TinyTrak
>>To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig_at_lists.tapr.org>
>>Message-ID:
>><AAF487C1-6C95-4393-A5A2-05AFC2A54C30_at_mac.com>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII;
>>delsp=yes; format=flowed
>>
>>You guys are behind the times... Wes Johnston did this with a Basic
>>Stamp and the serial line 3-4 years ago. The problem with it is that
>>if TT or OT decides to 'squawk' when you are in the middle of doing
>>ANYTHING (lists, message input) you lose it and it winds up back at
>>the standard display. This could however work by adding a pushbutton
>>on the Stamp box, the pushing of which says "for the next 90 seconds
>>don't do anything"... just a thought. By the way instead of a $50
>>BS2, it could be done with a $3.50 PICAXE 08M, there's a 'trick' to
>>getting 9600 baud serial out, but it works and is reliable.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:18:31 -0700
From: "Keith VE7GDH" <ve7gdh_at_rac.ca>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Registering OC30 and MAPOCX > Windows Vista Ultimate
Jim KU0G wrote...
>With XP there was a special procedure to get the two files for PM3.0
>operational. Have you done anything with Vista yet? Any guidance on how
>to get the OC30.dll and MAPOCX.ocx files to register and get PM up and
>running?
I'm not aware of a map server for PM3. There are map servers available
at http://www.ui-view.org/uiview32/uivpmap.shtml for PM 5 6 & 7, and version
7 is usable with PM 8 as well.
I know some people have UI-View running on Vista, but I haven't heard of
anyone using PMapServer with it yet. Maybe if there is anyone on the list
already using it with Vista, they could make some comments.
73 es cul - Keith VE7GDH
--
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:47:05 -0500
From: Jim Duncan <jdbandman_at_earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Registering OC30 and MAPOCX > Windows Vista Ultimate
Keith, this is for WINAPRS with Precision Maps 3.0 which I still use,
amazingly enough!
Jim Duncan, KU0G
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:48:09 -0700
From: "Stephen H. Smith" <wa8lmf2_at_aol.com>
Subject: [aprssig] Re: Registering OC30 and MAPOCX > Windows Vista Ultimate
ve7gdh_at_rac.ca wrote:
>
>I'm not aware of a map server for PM3. There are map servers available
>at http://www.ui-view.org/uiview32/uivpmap.shtml for PM 5 6 & 7, and
>version
>7 is usable with PM 8 as well.
>
>I know some people have UI-View running on Vista, but I haven't heard of
>anyone using PMapServer with it yet. Maybe if there is anyone on the list
>already using it with Vista, they could make some comments.
I wonder if he is thinking of WinAPRS rather than UIview. There was a way
to use PMap 3.0 with that program. Of course you probably were never aware
of it since that ancient version only covered the US. (Canada was added in
PMap Ver 6 as I recall).
At any rate, it would seem to be flailing a dead horse anyway since PMap 3
would be a decade or more out of date in the areas it did cover......
--
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
EchoLink Node: 14400 [Think bottom of the 2M band]
Home Page: http://wa8lmf.com --OR-- http://wa8lmf.net
NEW! World Digipeater Map
http://wa8lmf.net/APRSmaps
JavAPRS Filter Port 14580 Guide
http://wa8lmf.net/aprs/JAVaprsFilters.htm
"APRS 101" Explanation of APRS Path Selection & Digipeating
http://wa8lmf.net/DigiPaths
Updated "Rev H" APRS http://wa8lmf.net/aprs
Symbols Set for UI-View,
UIpoint and APRSplus:
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:08:07 -0700
From: "Keith VE7GDH" <ve7gdh_at_rac.ca>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Registering OC30 and MAPOCX > Windows Vista Ultimate
Jim KU0G wrote...
>Keith, this is for WINAPRS with Precision Maps 3.0 which I still use,
>amazingly enough!
Sorry - because you included my name in the original post, I assumed you
were talking about for use with UI-View. Oh... perhaps you were referring to
another Keith - hi! I don't have any knowledge or experience with WinAPRS.
To Stephen WA8LMF - good guess!
73 es cul - Keith VE7GDH
--
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 08:32:54 +0200
From: Tapio Sokura <oh2kku_at_iki.fi>
Subject: [aprssig] javaprs port that doesn't send a "keepalive" packet?
Hi,
From the small sample I've studied, javaprssrvr-servers seem to output a
#-prefixed idle packet every 20-30 seconds, at least on port 14580. Is
there a way to disable these packets by using a different port or sending a
specific kind of login command, for example?
I'm asking because a simple, only txing, cell-phone based tracker
accumulates most of the traffic from these idle packets. When you are
charged for every byte transferred, you like to keep the transferred amount
to a minimum. Would using UDP solve this?
Tapio
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