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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:52:05 -0400
From: "julien mervyn dedier" <julien9z4fz_at_gmail.com>
Subject: [aprssig] TNC SETTING
For those of us you who are running tne radios in TNC PKT please set the
tnc menu on the console right from watching some data some of the tnc menu
is not set right,go the kenwood specialized manual page 12 see your tnc set
up menu 1-6-1 set please to reflect your correct operating situation you
got 5 tnc menu make sure they are set right when operating in tnc pkt mode
--
THANKS
JULIEN
9Z4FZ//TRINIDSA & TOBAGO.
M0JDD//UNITED KINGDOM.
M0JDD/J3//GRENADA.
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:10:18 -0400
From: "julien mervyn dedier" <julien9z4fz_at_gmail.com>
Subject: [aprssig] tm-d700a /th-d7 tnc set up let us make use of the
mail box
Thanks for the individual mail and very honest comment by all you hams that
have now awaken to realize that while doing aprs you can do so much more
with these radios,glad to see the email julien my tnc was not working now i
can see data flowing from the hyper terminal on windows.
When a ham can admit that he now see his tnc working for the first time
since he bought his radio this is good new when i now watch the raw aprs
data i am seeing the changes here on the island the date and time stamp on
some aprs packet this is good fellows julien is not here to fool you or
play with your head the information is in your specialized manual read it
that is great and make the changes your self.
WES you are on it this radio bring back memory,great Bob WB4APR give the
world the APRS magic,KENWOOD APRS RADIO give us hams the tools this is a
marriage to do aprs packet and packet data communication at the same time
so now we know or we fore get to read the manual properly,the past is now
the past so go to the set up stage in my next email we focus on the tnc and
700a /d7 mail box relationship how it works and how to work it.
some tnc menu are not listed in the or in fact the tnc commands list page 41
to 48 some are not listed one or two that are not listed we will put them on
which is vital to the mail box operation greeting and welcome note in
accessing the the tm-d700a mail box,i will explain how for the th-d7 to get
mail as well because of the limitation of it mail box this is a good point
to note the guys with the d7 will be happy as well knowing how to get a mail
in the thn mail box of the tm-d700a radio.
While owning a d7 and not having a mail box like the 700a i will show you
where to collect your mail where to sent your mail hi hi and the marriage
between these two radio,hams have any one done aprs remote control with
these radios or sky command aprs have any one do this do you know that also
you can use the d7 to control the 700a do you know that the tm-d700a have
remote function in the radio as well menu see menu 1-A-1 YES THESE RADIO ARE
LOADED LIKE A GUN IF YOU DO NOT EXPLORE THE RADIO IT WILL BE UNDERUTILIZED
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THANKS
JULIEN
9Z4FZ//TRINIDSA & TOBAGO.
M0JDD//UNITED KINGDOM.
M0JDD/J3//GRENADA.
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:46:11 -0500
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga_at_usna.edu>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] Local Repeater Displays on Mobiles
>Personally, I prefer the display in the D7 and D700 with the
>repeater callsign and a SSID of R which is easy to spot and
>recognize as a repeater...
I guess with my old eyes, while driving, it is harder to see a -R than to
see 146.940-. The frequency really makes it stand out on the D700 display.
>This also removes any guesswork with propagation [overwriting]
>local repeaters.
I assume that that problem is insignificant. In areas that have multiple
identical repeaters on identical frequencies and lots of tropo, then there
are 36 ways to make the repeater unique:
146.94- is different from 146.940- is different from 146.94 and 146.940 and
then you can add A,B,C,D or anything else to the name to make it unique.
In fact, one can come up with 1296 different letter combinatinos on the end
to make each repeater unique. The "-" is not required, since almost all
repeaters use standard offsets, and those that don't, then usually are not
600 KHz either and so need additional info anyway.
>I also prefer using RNGxxxx instead of PHGxxxx because it is
>obvious in the D7 and D700 if I am in range of the repeater.
Hey, that is a great idea. I didn't realize that it would properly decode
the RNG value, since it gets screwed up on the PHG value. If RNG works,
then I agree. Lets use that for omni antennna repeaters. For those that
have an offset pattern, though, the PHGD format would still be needed for
the directivity digit..
>If you want to persist in broadcasting frequencies as the ID
>using 3rd-party format, then add,TCPIP* to the path so it
>won't get back into APRS-IS.... I would like to look at a
>APRS-IS map... and see what repeaters are... in the area
I agree it is nice to look at an area from afar. I see several ways to do
that:
1) Set one's local client to X miles around the area of interest
2) Set an APRS-IS filter to X miles around the area of interest
3) Use FFF.FFF-X where X is one of 36 discriminators
4) AlsoFFF.FFF+X works too..
This way we still keep the FFF.FFF display on the radio's station list so
that it is very obvious. So with your RNG suggestion, then I like the
formats of
BT }146.940-A>APOBJ:!DDMM.hhN/DDDMM.hhWrRNGxxxx PL 107.5 Net Th
9PM AARC W3VPR
BT }146.940-A>APOBJ:!DDMM.hhN/DDDMM.hhWrPHGxxxx PL 107.5 Net Th
9PM AARC W3VPR
So that the PL and the Net time (if any) shows up on both the D7 and D700
and the club name or club call show up on D700 or other programs.
Bob, WB4APR
>>From: Robert Bruninga
>>Posted At: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:52 PM
>>Subject: RE: [aprssig] Local Repeater Displays on Mobiles
>>
>>>Shows up as a fixed station with the senders CALL.
>>
>>ARGH!! You are right. OK, here is the receommended new format
>>that will work. We will send the objects in 3rd party format so
>>that the PHG will work correctly.
>>
>>BT }146.670->APOBJ:4612.74N/06320.46WrPHG8560 IRLP2030 VE1CRA
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:00:18 -0400
From: "julien mervyn dedier" <julien9z4fz_at_gmail.com>
Subject: [aprssig] TNC COMMANDS FOR TM-D700A
In the 700a the mail box need to be given a call on the island all mail box
carry ssid -1 this we know that julien mail box is 9z4fz-1 so than any body
can send me a mail or come into my mail box and put a mail for me,the other
countries i do not know what is the set up or procedure,this each country
will have to work out what call they are going to assign to tnc mail box in
the tnc 700a this is vital for operation.
At the same time we have the ssid for console operation from 0 to 15 the
console operation in no way effect the tnc operation this is two different
operation but in same radio and what ever call sign or name you give the
mail box your friends will need to know so that once the word is out that
julien have set up his 700a mail box the mail box is 9z4fz-1,hams will know
that they can send message to me direct into the tm-d700a mail box.
in hyper terminal you can program your tnc these are very important how you
do this i send the tnc short cut to input in the tnc the menu set up,you
can follow me in the short cut buy page 41 and on once you see the short cut
you will have an idea from the specialized manual tnc commands page 41
tnc commands not in specialized manual tnc commands list but is inside the
tnc of the tm-d700a do the following.
BBSMSGS IS OFF CORRECT BBSMSGS ON
CMSG OFF CORRECT CMSG ON
CTEXT BLANK CORRECT PUT IN YOUR OWN GREETING FOR WHEN SOME ONE
CONNECT TO YOUR MAIL BOX.
TNC COMMAND IN SPECIALIZED MANUAL
TNC SET UP
AXD 10
B EVERY 15 FOR ME WE NEED TO ID OUR
STATION EVERY 15 MINUTES
BT PUT YOUR OWN GREETING
CONS ON
DAYS ON
E OFF
FR 7
MAI ON
MB ON
MCOM ON
MC ON
MS ON
MYA SEE MANUAL PAGE 46 MINE HAVE 9Z4GB-3
MYA USE THE CONSOLE CALL SIGN MINE IS 9Z4FZ-3 OR 9Z4FZ-6
MYM THIS IS YOUR MAIL BOX I HAVE 9Z4FZ-1
OVE I HAVE 16 PLEASE SEE YOUR MANUAL PAGE 47
SL 10
TRI 10
TX 30
UIF PLEASE SEE BOB WB4APR SETTING AND USE TO SUITE YOUR
OPERATION.
UIS ON
UIT PLEASE SEE BOB WB4APR SETTING AND USE TO SUITE YOUR
OPERATION
U SEE MANUAL PAGE 50 I GOT 9Y4PJ-6 VIA
9Z4GB-3,9Y4TTL-7,9Z4FZ-6 THIS IS MY SET UP
US 4
These are the tnc set up to get you using the mail box,doing packet,doing
aprs packet chat,now i have to explain some function in my next email and
how it work please test the system with one another send mail to your
friend go in and leave mail for him explore all that this magic radio can do
together with aprs.
to connect to the mail box is command c the person call sign,to connect to
the console is c the person console call sign,when in chat mode some you
will See aprs data and time no aprsa just the station you are chatting with
this is normal especially with the d7,PLEASE NOTE THAT THESE COMMANDS ARE
FOR KENWOOD TNC TM-D700A,SOON I SEND FOR TH-D7 OK
please ask question if not sure or have problems
--
THANKS
JULIEN
9Z4FZ//TRINIDSA & TOBAGO.
M0JDD//UNITED KINGDOM.
M0JDD/J3//GRENADA.
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