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Today's Topics:
1. GPS recommendation (K7RJR John)
2. Re: GPS recommendation (Drew Baxter)
3. Re: GPS recommendation (Rich Mulvey)
4. RE: GPS recommendation (Amir's email)
5. Re: GPS recommendation (Rich Mulvey)
6. RE: GPS recommendation (VE7GDH)
7. Re: GPS recommendation (Stephen H. Smith)
8. Re: GPS recommendation (Terry Palmer)
9. Point-to-point telemetry addressing (Michael R. Owen)
10. RE: Point-to-point telemetry addressing (scott_at_opentrac.org)
11. Re: Point-to-point telemetry addressing (Michael R. Owen)
12. Re: Point-to-point telemetry addressing (Stephen H. Smith)
13. Re: Point-to-point telemetry addressing (Michael R. Owen)
14. Re: Point-to-point telemetry addressing (VE7GDH)
15. Re: Point-to-point telemetry addressing (Steve Dimse)
16. Re: Point-to-point telemetry addressing (Stephen H. Smith)
17. RE: Point-to-point telemetry addressing (Robert Bruninga)
18. RE: Point-to-point telemetry addressing (Cap Pennell)
19. RE: Point-to-point telemetry addressing (Robert Bruninga)
20. help with proper paths (Warren Kean)
21. RE: Point-to-point telemetry addressing (Amir's email)
22. RE: help with proper paths (Robert Bruninga)
23. RE: Point-to-point telemetry addressing (Robert Bruninga)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:25:22 -0700
From: K7RJR John <k7rjr_at_cox.net>
Subject: [aprssig] GPS recommendation
I just found out that I will be receiving a new GPS for Christmas. I
presently have 2 hockey puck type GPSs and a 9 year old Eagle hand held but
would like to use one of the new mapping GPSs that provide route
information, preferably one with voice guidance. Such as the Magellan
Roadmate 2000, Tom Tom, Garmin 300+, etc. I'll be using a D-700 and want
to use the GPS to show the received stations' icons on the map screen.
I've been searching the web and can't find anything to indicate this will
be possible with the newest devices. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
John, K7RJR
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 13:29:52 -0500
From: Drew Baxter <droobie_at_maine.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] GPS recommendation
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 13:48:25 -0500
From: Rich Mulvey <aprs_at_mulveyfamily.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] GPS recommendation
K7RJR John wrote:
>I just found out that I will be receiving a new GPS for Christmas. I
>presently have 2 hockey puck type GPSs and a 9 year old Eagle hand held
>but would like to use one of the new mapping GPSs that provide route
>information, preferably one with voice guidance. Such as the Magellan
>Roadmate 2000, Tom Tom, Garmin 300+, etc. I'll be using a D-700 and
>want to use the GPS to show the received stations' icons on the map
>screen.
>
>I've been searching the web and can't find anything to indicate this
>will be possible with the newest devices. Any help will be appreciated.
>Thanks.
You're not going to have any luck with any of the "modern" mapping GPS's,
except perhaps for aviation units. The only new mapping GPS out there with
NMEA input/output that I'm aware of is the Avmap G4T, and it has gotten
some really poor reviews on other lists I'm on, like the D700 list on Yahoo
Groups.
- Rich
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 14:09:55 -0500
From: "Amir's email" <sarlabs_at_twcny.rr.com>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] GPS recommendation
Hi John:
I think that the newer units have USB only connections, which makes
interfacing a problem.
OTOH, I'm using a Garmin 60CSx for both vehicular (turn-by-turn directions,
no voice though) and land navigation. In addition, the same GPS sends is
connected to my TH-D7AG for now, (expecting a TM-700 soon) and sends my
position to the radio and receives and displays stations heard/received.
Now, depending on the scale I've chosen for the screen, I may not see the
ones far away, as after all, I'm using the GPS for navigation mainly, but
they are there nevertheless.
The Garmin 76CSx is practically the same GPS as the 60CSx, just the
ergonomics are different and you get a larger memory card. Yes, you will
have to shell off extra bucks for the navigating software. I believe that
with a 2GB card, you could have most of the US road maps in memory without
having to reload and have access to your computer.
Now there may be USB to serial converters out there. My experience with the
serial to USB converters shows that not all are equal and not all work with
all applications... So this may not be the way to go, unless you like being
a trailblazer.
73 de K9CHP, Amir Findling, member ARRL, AMSAT #36083
1st Special Response Group (1SRG) http://www.1srg.org/
Apprentice Tracker, Joel Hardin Professional Tracking Services
http://www.jhardin-inc.com/index.htm
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 14:16:42 -0500
From: Rich Mulvey <aprs_at_mulveyfamily.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] GPS recommendation
Amir's email wrote:
>Now there may be USB to serial converters out there. My experience with the
>serial to USB converters shows that not all are equal and not all work with
>all applications... So this may not be the way to go, unless you like being
>a trailblazer.
A USB->Serial converter won't work. They require that the USB end of the
cable be a USB Host device. None of the USB GPS's out there act as
anything other than USB clients.
- Rich
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:25:41 -0800
From: "VE7GDH" <ve7gdh_at_rac.ca>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] GPS recommendation
Amir K9CHP wrote...
>The Garmin 76CSx is practically the same GPS as the 60CSx, just
>the ergonomics are different and you get a larger memory card.
There's one more difference. Like the older 76S which I have, the 76CSx
floats. Not a biggy unless you are out on the water with it or wading
across creeks.
73 es cul - Keith VE7GDH
--
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:53:15 -0800
From: "Stephen H. Smith" <wa8lmf2_at_aol.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] GPS recommendation
sarlabs_at_twcny.rr.com wrote:
>
>Now there may be USB to serial converters out there. My experience with the
>serial to USB converters shows that not all are equal and not all work with
>all applications... So this may not be the way to go, unless you like being
>a trailblazer.
*USB-to-serial converters ONLY WORK WITH A COMPUTER.*
You *CANNOT* convert a non-computer USB peripheral (such as a GPS) to work
with a non-computer serial device (such as a Kenwood D700 or TinyTrak) with
a USB-to-Serial "dongle". These converters are not just hardware
devices -- they depend on a complex multi-layer stack of software drivers
running in Windows (or some other OS).
--
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
EchoLink Node: 14400 [Think bottom of the 2M band]
Home Page: http://wa8lmf.com --OR-- http://wa8lmf.net
NEW! TNC Test CD
http://wa8lmf.net/TNCtest
JavAPRS Filter Port 14580 Guide
http://wa8lmf.net/aprs/JAVaprsFilters.htm
"APRS 101" Explanation of APRS Path Selection & Digipeating
http://wa8lmf.net/DigiPaths
Updated "Rev G" APRS http://wa8lmf.net/aprs
Symbols Set for UI-View,
UIpoint and APRSplus:
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:01:58 -0500
From: "Terry Palmer" <terrypalmer2_at_compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] GPS recommendation
I usually use the Garmin GPS 18-PC (hockey puck) around town; however, when
I go on trips and want to see the APRSers around me --- I hook up my Garmin
GPS 276c Mapplotter w/voice and it works great; it has a beanbag accessory
and just sits on dash doing it's thing.
You can call up the Waypoints List and watch the call signs add up quickly.
Good luck. (P.S. I think today's model may be the 376c.)
Terry
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:17:31 -0500
From: "Michael R. Owen" <nlsa_at_nlsa.com>
Subject: [aprssig] Point-to-point telemetry addressing
Dear friends,
I know almost nothing about packet radio or APRS so please forgive me if my
question is stupid. My home station (W9IP-1) is near Syracuse, NY and I'm
trying to maintain a telemetry link with our cottage (W9IP-2) about 35 km
away. The terrain is rough so a direct path doesn't work. There is a good
APRS digipeter (K2AMB-3) near W9IP-1 and another good one (KB2FAF-10) near
W9IP-2. The two digipeters "see" each other very well. The one near
W9IP-2 is also an IGate, which is important because I want the telemetry to
show up on findu's database.
I would think that...
W9IP-1's path to W9IP-2 would be APRS,K2AMB-3,KB2FAF-10,W9IP-2
and that
W9IP-2's path to W9IP-1 would be APRS,KB2FAF-10,K2AMB-3,W9IP-1
However, neither of these appear to work. The only addressing that seems
to work is APRS,WIDE2-2, but that only works from time to time, when the
two WIDEs happen to be K2AMB-3 and KB2FAF-10. I understand that I
shouldn't expect 100% because of packet collisions, but so far specific
addressing is just not working at all. Any suggestions?
Thanks-W9IP
--
Michael R. Owen, Ph.D.
Northern Lights Software Associates
http://www.nlsa.com
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