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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Packet Node on 144.390 ? (Noel Shrum)
2. Re: Packet Node on 144.390 ? (wa7nwp_at_jnos.org)
3. Re: GPS Display of D700 stations (Henk de Groot)
4. Re: Packet Node on 144.390 ? (Ray McKnight)
5. Winlink (Steve Huston)
6. Re: Winlink (Ray McKnight)
7. Re: Winlink (James Jolin)
8. [OT] Surplus Basic Stamps - More (Brian Riley)
9. Re: Winlink (Ray McKnight)
10. Re: Winlink (Curt, WE7U)
11. Re: Winlink (kb2scs_at_optonline.net)
12. Re: Winlink (Curt, WE7U)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:14:16 -0400
From: Noel Shrum <ar798_at_tcnet.org>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Packet Node on 144.390 ?
KA8VIT wrote:
>Winlink ??? arrrggghhhh !
>
>Bill KA8VIT
I personaly don't like the idea that it only works in windows and ignores
OSX and linux/unix/bsd/whatever.
Noel W8TVI
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:26:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: wa7nwp_at_jnos.org
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Packet Node on 144.390 ?
>KA8VIT wrote:
>>Winlink ??? arrrggghhhh !
>
>I personaly don't like the idea that it only works in windows and
>ignores OSX and linux/unix/bsd/whatever.
The Airmail application works fine in Wine.. Telpac_node is available for
Linux and works great. They've chose to build the infrastructure on
Winders and since it's behind a wall from us end users - it doesn't matter
to us. There's lots we can do with Linux, etc, to take advantage of
their infrastructure and efforts so on we go. It's cricital we do this
so the world (and ARRL/ARES/NTS) sees there's far more to Amateur Digital
messaging then just Winlink2k.
73
Bill
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:53:42 +0200
From: Henk de Groot <henk.de.groot_at_hetnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] GPS Display of D700 stations
Hello,
Curt Mills wrote:
>Someone came up to me at the NWAPRS summer gathering yesterday and
>had one of these units. There was no option on the screen for
>setting it to NMEA IN/OUT mode. Just NMEA OUT.
There are 2 versions yellow eTrex, the original for the US (also sold in
europe in the beginning since I have one) and one multi-language version
for Europe.
The first has older hardware "Bravo 6" (press "page" and "up" and switch it
on while keeping the buttons pressed). That one has less memory and Garmin
stopped updates at version 2.14.
The newer one had newer hardware (you guessed it...) and more memory,
allowing for more features. One of them is NMEA-input, but also some
fishing stuff. This software is available at Garmins site as "eTrex-euro".
I have a strong suspicion that the hardware and software is 100% identical
to the "eTrex camo".
There is no way to run eTrex-euro/eTrex camo software on the Bravo 6
hardware, not compatible and not enough memory.
Beware also when you update the eTrex software, the newer software outputs
positions with more digits, the older TH-D7's could not cope with that.
Downgrade is possible, but you need the software...
I asked garmin (a few years ago) for NMEA-in for the Bravo 6 eTrex, the
reply was:
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Message-Id: <200106281638.LAA02347_at_dresden.garmin.com>
From: "Broad, Tony" <Tony.Broad_at_garmin.com>
Subject: RE: Technical Support Form - Product: eTrex
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:47:05 -0500
Hi Henk,
Sorry, the standard eTrex does not have sufficient code space to have
these features added - although our engineers are working on it and may
find some way of doing this in the future.
Comments about the track lines have been noted by our engineers, but I do
not know if they intend to change this setting.
The NMEA input was part of the update for the eTrex European.
Regards,
Tony Broad
Service/Support and MIS Manager
Garmin (Europe) Ltd
http://www.garmin.com
http://www.garmin.com/support/
-----Original Message-----
From: henk.de.groot_at_hetnet.nl [mailto:henk.de.groot_at_hetnet.nl]
Sent: 28 June 2001 10:01
Subject: Technical Support Form - Product: eTrex
Question #: 60931
Route to: techsupp.europe_at_garmin.com
Visited FAQs:
Contact Information:
First Name: Henk
Middle Initial
Last Name: de Groot
Address: Schopenhauerstraat 10
City, State, Zip: Apeldoorn, NL, 7323MC
Country: Netherlands
Phone: +31 53 4505400
E-mail: henk.de.groot_at_hetnet.nl
GARMIN Product: eTrex
Serial Number:
Software Version: 2.10
Problem:
Hello Garmin,
3 quick questions, not found in the FAQ:
1) On the update page I see the european model, sw 2.05 has
the following feature:
"Added Hunt / Fish outlook page and Sun / Moon outlook page"
Will this be added to the US version too? (my unit has the US
version). If not, is there any way to convery my US version
(eTrex - Bravo 6) to a european version?
2) Will there be a version with 1 pixel-thick track lines?
3) If the eTrex could accept $GPWPL input when NMEA is used whould
be realy great!
I hope you can answer my questions,
Kind regards,
Henk.
P.S. I think the eTrex is fantastic, I use it with APRS on HAM-radio.
It works great (but you already knew this I guess...).
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:19:42 -0700
From: "Ray McKnight" <shortsheep_at_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Packet Node on 144.390 ?
WinLink itself has nothing to do with "only runs under Windows". You can
talk to a TNC or SCS Pactor modem using only a dumb terminal, and
communications program that can pass ASCII commands out the serial port.
So these are commonly available in all operating systems. Unfortunately
few bother to learn how to use their TNC's in terminal mode. During the
early days, this is all we had, there were no fancy front end programs.
When Procomm was released, that was the cat's meow but is was still only a
manual command line interface from the users standpoint talking to the TNC.
Yes, Airmail is a native Winderz app, but as has been pointed out if you
can get Wine to work you can run Airmail under emulation in Linux. Airmail
is absolutely NOT a necessary interface to WinLink. It's simply another
widget intended to present non-technical people a familiar interface to
make them more comfortable using the system, and reduce training and set-up
time, especially in places like an EOC where you might have dozens of
non-Hams from many different backgrounds needing to send e-mail. By giving
them a familiar Outlook-style interface it makes the stress level go down.
If you can use a terminal program and issue command line ASCII commands you
can use Winlink on anything with a serial port, even a CP/M box or
Commodore-64, on both VHF or HF.
That's what I call backward compatibility.
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:10:17 -0400
From: Steve Huston <huston_at_astro.princeton.edu>
Subject: [aprssig] Winlink
On 09/13/2006 08:54 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>I'm talking about the VHF TELPAC nodes that act just like an old
>fashioned BBS, yet are linked to the global WinLINK system. (I
>may be using the wrong terms), but the idea is that the TELPAC
>nodes are just packet links into the system.
On 09/13/2006 04:19 PM, Ray McKnight wrote:
>WinLink itself has nothing to do with "only runs under Windows".
>If you can use a terminal program and issue command line ASCII commands
>you can use Winlink on anything with a serial port, even a CP/M box or
>Commodore-64, on both VHF or HF.
Thank you Bob and Ray for shedding some light on this. I stand corrected!
My only problem with the Winlink information I'd read is that I didn't find
anything that mentioned this, only "download this Windows executable here"
or "Run this Windows program from here". Now that I know there's more to
it than that, I might have to dial up a local Telpac node and see what I
can do.
--
Steve Huston - W2SRH - Unix Sysadmin, Dept. of Astrophysical Sciences
Princeton University | ICBM Address: 40.346525 -74.651285
126 Peyton Hall |"On my ship, the Rocinante, wheeling through
Princeton, NJ 08544 | the galaxies; headed for the heart of Cygnus,
(609) 258-7375 | headlong into mystery." -Rush, 'Cygnus X-1'
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:31:33 -0700
From: "Ray McKnight" <shortsheep_at_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Winlink
You don't "dial up" a Telpac node, you connect to it over the air via
regular old connected mode packet on 1200 baud VHF. Once connected you
will be in a simple command-line menu system like the old packet BBS's.
Those who choose to run Airmail will have simple one-click icon's to
connect, select various gateway stations, and send/receive e-mail almost as
easily as using Microsoft Outlook (or whatever program you prefer). Those
who connect "manually" and use the command line interface will have some
advanced Winlink functions disabled. Another reason to use Airmail. But
it still gets the job done.
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