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Today's Topics:
1. Re: aprs wish list (Steve Bragg)
2. Re: Re: aprs wish list (Curt, WE7U)
3. Re: APRS enabled Tide/Flood gauges and monitors (Steve Dimse)
4. Re: Re: aprs wish list (Anders Green)
5. Re: Re: aprs wish list (Bob Burns K4RXR)
6. APRS messaging break out (Andrew Rich)
7. Re: APRS messaging break out (Curt Mills)
8. RE: APRS messaging break out (Andrew Rich)
9. Re: APRS wish list (Bob Burns K4RXR)
10. Re: Re: aprs wish list (Bob Burns K4RXR)
11. Re: APRS messaging break out (wa7nwp_at_jnos.org)
12. Re: APRS messaging break out (Stan - N0YXV)
13. Re: APRS wish list (Curt, WE7U)
14. Re: APRS messaging break out (Curt, WE7U)
15. RE: APRS messaging break out (Andrew Rich)
16. Re: APRS wish list (Jason Winningham)
17. Re: APRS wish list (Bob Burns K4RXR)
18. qAR & qAr, same igate (Curt, WE7U)
19. RE: qAR & qAr, same igate (AE5PL Lists)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:22:01 -0500
From: Steve Bragg <steve_at_hamhud.net>
Subject: [aprssig] Re: aprs wish list
format="flowed"
Quoting Bob Burns K4RXR <k4rxr__at_rlburns.net>
>Subject: [aprssig] APRS wish list
>To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig_at_lists.tapr.org>
>Here's what I want to do:
>1. Send ARPS data with my vehicle's position using SmartBeaconing as
>described by Arnerich and Bragg. Beaconing my position should be a
>"hands off" operation from my point of view.
HamHUD is the original SmartBeaconing device. There's a new firmware
version of HamHUD that allows it to be used with a TM-D700. There are also
other SmartBeaconing devices, like Byonics' TinyTrak and N1VG's
OpenTracker. Someone mentioned UI-VIEW32 - I think it has SmartBeaconing,
but I know APRS+SA does.
>2. Receive APRS data and display the locations and tracks of those
>stations on a fairly accurate map, possibly on a PC.
You can hook a PC to the serial port in parallel with a HamHUD.
>4. Have a "head's up" display of my position. If not "head's up", a
>display that I can mount on the dashboard or console will suffice.
HamHUD takes care of that. Line 1 of the display always shows speed and
heading (selectable units), and Line 2 can be configured to show lat/lon,
or distance/bearing from any heard station, or a selectable waypoint.
>6. Whatever radio that I use for APRS will be dedicated to APRS and
>not have to do dual duty as a voice radio. I would like to implement
>Voice Alert using CTCSS 100 Hz as described in the APRS documentation.
You mean Bob recommends transmitting voice on 144.39? I'll have to go back
and read that one...
73,
Steve Bragg KA9MVA
(The HamHUD guy)
--
HamHUD - Heads-Up Mobile Digital Ham Radio
http://www.hamhud.net
SmartBeaconing and HamHUD are trademarks of HamHUD.net
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:28:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Curt, WE7U" <archer_at_eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Re: aprs wish list
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, Steve Bragg wrote:
>HamHUD is the original SmartBeaconing device. There's a new firmware
>version of HamHUD that allows it to be used with a TM-D700. There are
>also other SmartBeaconing devices, like Byonics' TinyTrak and N1VG's
>OpenTracker. Someone mentioned UI-VIEW32 - I think it has
>SmartBeaconing, but I know APRS+SA does.
Xastir, and the Tracker2 from N1VG also.
--
Curt, WE7U. APRS Client Comparisons: http://www.eskimo.com/~archer
"Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown
"Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U
"The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!"
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:52:35 -0400
From: Steve Dimse <steve_at_dimse.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS enabled Tide/Flood gauges and monitors
On Aug 14, 2006, at 5:22 PM, Steve Dimse wrote:
>And what data format they send? If these actually exist and are on
>the air I want to add support to findU.
Dave pointed out a station sending data, and I was able to get parsing
working as of a couple hours ago. I hear three stations so far, only one
seems to be getting data to the APRS IS regularly. In a couple days, there
will be enough data to make this look better...
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/water.cgi?call=KP4DJT-6
If anyone gets ahold of these guys, tell them they could sell a lot of tide
guages if they made them easier to buy! I'm still waiting for a callback.
Steve K4HG
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:54:29 -0400
From: Anders Green <anders_at_pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Re: aprs wish list
At 01:22 PM 8/15/2006, Steve Bragg wrote:
>You mean Bob recommends transmitting voice on 144.39?
Yes, he does.
Used in instances where you discover someone that you're getting direct
packets from (not from a tower) and thus are close enough to go simplex.
Break in with a "hey fellow close APRSer, go to (some voice channel) to
chat".
Cheers,
Anders
| -.-- --- ..- / -.- -. --- .-- / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. .
| Anders Green
| ki4iwx
| Real Time GPS of my location via APRS:
| http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?call=ki4iwx
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:58:34 -0400
From: Bob Burns K4RXR <k4rxr__at_rlburns.net>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Re: aprs wish list
Quoting Steve Bragg <steve_at_hamhud.net>:
>>6. Whatever radio that I use for APRS will be dedicated to APRS and
>>not have to do dual duty as a voice radio. I would like to implement
>>Voice Alert using CTCSS 100 Hz as described in the APRS documentation.
>
>You mean Bob recommends transmitting voice on 144.39? I'll have to
>go back and read that one...
No, I don't think that's exactly what he's recommending.
Quoting from MOBILE.TXT packaged with APRS876.ZIP:
=========
VOICE ALERT! The concept called Voice Alert is like getting a FREE APRS
voice calling channel in your mobile for ALWAYS being able to contact an
APRS mobile no matter what freq his voice radio is on. Its also like a
radar detector for other mobile APRS operators in simplex range on the open
road. It is trivially simple:
Instead of turning the speaker volume down on your noisey 144.39 channel,
simply set CTCSS decode to 100 Hz. This accomplishes 2 things:
1) It keeps your speaker quiet but everyone who understands voice alert
knows they can contact you by voice by simply calling on PL 100.
2) It causes your outgoing packets to have PL 100 to serve as a radar ping
to other Voice Alert stations in range. Conversly you will never hear
anything on your 144.39 voice alert unless anotehr APRS voice alert station
is in simplex range (about 5 miles max)
These two make sure you will have an opportunity for a voice call to QSY to
52 or other channel for a QSO. On the interstates you pass another ham
statistically about once every 10 minutes. But you never know it. With
Voice Alert, you now will be aware of each other's presence AND you will
have a KNOWN contact frequency.
=========
For what it's worth, I've been running Voice Alert around Central and
Southern Indiana for the last month. I've heard one station transmitting a
100.0 Hz PL tone.
Bob...
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 07:19:18 +1000
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec_at_tech-software.net>
Subject: [aprssig] APRS messaging break out
Gudday
I would like to harness the ack features of APRS messaging and put the data
into a database.
So my next question is :-
What APRS clients allow me to "get at" the messaging part ?
I would prefer LINUX - my back end will be mysql and php delivery.
I am trying to put together a HQ for a ham radio event, with the messages
being displayed on a refreshing web page (which gets its data from APRS
messages)
Ideas ? Does XASTIR let me at the message data in any way ?
We will be in the bush - so NO internet
Andrew Rich
Amateur radio callsign VK4TEC
email: vk4tec_at_tech-software.net
web: http://www.tech-software.net
Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:28:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Curt Mills <archer_at_eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS messaging break out
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006, Andrew Rich wrote:
>What APRS clients allow me to "get at" the messaging part ?
>
>I would prefer LINUX - my back end will be mysql and php delivery.
>
>I am trying to put together a HQ for a ham radio event, with the messages
>being displayed on a refreshing web page (which gets its data from APRS
>messages)
>
>Ideas ? Does XASTIR let me at the message data in any way ?
Nope, but logging of all messaging is on our feature request list. We have
a dialog right now that shows all messaging: We could tie into that code
and log everything that goes there to disk without too much difficulty.
Of course we'd be happy to accept patches to do that and integrate them
into the main code body...
--
Curt, WE7U. archer at eskimo dot com
http://www.eskimo.com/~archer
Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown
Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U.
The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!"
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