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I0OJJ  > ANTENN   04.07.10 05:33l 122 Lines 5597 Bytes #-5792 (0) @ WW
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On 3 jul, 21:00, Richard Clark <kb7...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 16:13:27 -0700 (PDT), lu6etj <lu6...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Hi, hi, I do not quite understand/translate your jokes: do you dislike
> >Resnick's "granularity"? I think it is a sort of energy acne :>)
>
> Hi Miguel,
>
> Good joke. =A0Others may not be aware that Buenos Aires is one among
> cities that have the highest psychiatrist to population ratio in the
> world. =A0To set the record straight, Seattle has a very high suicide
> rate. =A0This in no way intimates that you are crazy and I am about to
> off myself (this may disappoint some that drawl).
>
> >You said you could hear an insect shooting your window then I asked
> >you if you can hear sound 80 dB below insect shooting your window.
>
> You presented the analogue of car vs mosquito. =A0You expressed the
> magnitude of difference. =A0I disputed neither, accepted them, showed
> that the difference(s) could be perceived. =A0Why add a new variable? If
> you are not, are you challenging your own analogue?
>
> > 80
> >dB example it is only a about difference (quotient) of magnitudes. Or
> >you do not read well or I not write well my sentences -the last has a
> >probability of =A00,99- :>)
>
> You are now extending it to 160dB of difference.
>
> As I said, you either have your magnitudes inverted, or are now mixing
> metaphors. =A0The argument is in failure mode. =A0This is invariably the
> fate of metaphor/analog/allegory when it is forced to replace simple
> math for observable and demonstrable science.
>
> To touch on allegory, the snake in Eden (read Texas) introduced
> analogues (read Hallelujah - let there be Photons!) and seduced (read
> perverted) logic to obtain mastery over creation (read RRAA). =A0
>
> Don't blame the guy with the horn. =A0:-)
>
> >Certainly, my book is in spanish, the original is "Physics" Vol II,
> >Extended version, 4th ed. ISBN 0-471-54804-9 (I do not have it), read
> >from here. Yes, it is dated 1992 a little old, doesn't it?.
>
> Not too many of us get new copies from the future, so I am not
> particularly upset about its copyright date.
>
> >so... can
> >we today measure quantum acne from large scale 3,5 MHz oscillator at
> >room temperature?
>
> Did you miss my comments about noise floor? =A0Can you breath,
> unassisted, under water? =A0Does a tree make a noise when it topples on
> the Moon? =A0Can you feel the tingle of 110VAC when you are being struck
> by lightning? =A0Do these questions sound like Cecileo? =A0(As I have lon=
g
> ago blocked his postings, I assume our newsgroup victim has at least
> once made an allusion to his torment by the inquisition.)
>
> There are 10,000 ways to fail and you found at least one that was
> documented. =A0I showed you an equal number of success (1) and that is
> unsatisfactory. =A0Could it be answered that between the two examples
> that one exhibits a huge S+N/N? =A0In other words, why at:>room temperatu=
re?
>
> Do you have a New York flight to catch to solve the Financial crisis?
> Plan on the next flight out tomorrow and cool the room down.
>
> >(Use caution to answer me because your words can
> >turn against us and someone may be tempted to postulate "The
> >uncerntainty VSWR principle" and rots all here :>D =A0)
>
> "However your VSWR may vary, no Standing Waves were interfered with in
> the making of this response."
>
> 73's
> Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Hi hi, Why I find it more hard to translate your writings than another
guys ones? is it a peculiarity of your playing with words or your zone
manners? I am sorry because I miss some of your subtleties or
grammatical tricks and I suspect they have more funny meanings that I
can capture :>)

I believe what we have more here are psychoanalysts not psychiatrists
(I read something about it time ago), but do not worry I am a little
crazy too! :>)

Look, my first idea example was compare difference in marbels size
with hydrogen atom size (about 10^8) to point to granularity, but
inmediately I realized that dealing with differences in size was not a
correct example and turn to Ec example. You said our retinas sometimes
can perceive individual light photons, no? then I pointed to an eigty
meters photon had 10^-8 smaller energy than green photon.
I was telling we are talking about truly classics system therefore
quantum effects (photon) it is useless because in our level of
discussion oscillators/transmitters do not manifest quantum effects
because its very high quantum numbers Of course I know (do I know?,
really?, mmm) correspondence principle.

Why at room temperature? Do we see if I understood your question... at
room temperature because we Hams usually make our TL Bird Truline
measurements at room temperatures. Answer this your question? (my
freezer do not go beyond -20 Celcius degrees!). Theorical/extreme
cases are welcomed too but... to rebut normal/standard situations?
I do not believe you has blocking Cecil posts, no no, you say it =3D> we
have a lot of psychoanalysts here: one of them are whispering to my
ear just now, you really like him, remember TV series: "The odd
couple"? :>D
.....
(You see?, I'm lost with some interesting sentences such "However your
VSWR may vary, no Standing Waves were interfered with in the making of
this response." If tomorrow I find my london friend I ask his helping
to translate better your entire post :>)   )

73, and now being 23:31 I will take my girlfriend LU2ET to a night
trip motorcycle by the city. Well... 2ET has been my XYL for over
thirty years :>)
Have you a really nice motorcycle as Cecil? eh?



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