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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:56:06 -0400
From: "Grant Mitchell" <n4gm@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS for Field Day

Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS for Field Day


> What's REALLY a shame is that the ARRL refuses to adopt a 1 QSO per pass or
> even 1 QSO per FM sat rule for Field Day.....  they actually ENCOURAGE the
> type of operation that makes those birds practically useless FD weekend!
>
> George, KA3HSW
>


There seems to be some confusion about this so I will try to clarify.

ALL satellite QSO's (including ISS) count for QSO point credit depending on
your entry classification.
A dedicated satellite station does NOT add to your station total.
You can only get the SATELITE BONUS of 100 points once......1 QSO
The ISS is not earth-satellite-earth so would not count toward the SATELITE
BONUS.

My suggestions:

Try to work as many stations, on as many satellites as you can (no dupes!).
Try to work our guys on the ISS (it will be busy).....it will add to your
score and it's also a nice QSL card.  Work any ONE of the other satellites for
the 100 SATELLITE BONUS points......1 QSO.  Now sit back and work as many as
you can on all the satellites and increase your score and have fun.  I'll try
to be on most (no s band ) CW, SSB, FM and hope to work many of you.  FD call
will be N4BP.

Below is a copy of the satellite bonus Field Day rules.

7.3.7. Satellite QSO: 100 bonus points for successfully completing at least
one QSO via an amateur radio satellite during the Field Day period. Under the
"General Rules for All ARRL Contests" (Rule 3.7.2.), the no-repeater QSO
stipulation is waived for satellite QSOs. Groups are allowed one dedicated
satellite transmitter station without increasing their entry category.
Satellite QSOs also count for regular QSO credit. Show them listed separately
on the summary sheet as a separate "band." You do not receive an additional
bonus for contacting different satellites, though the additional QSOs may be
counted for QSO credit. The QSO must be Earth-Satellite-Earth in nature.
Available to Classes A, B, and F.

73 and good luck to all,
Grant, N4GM
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:31:02 -0400
From: "Rick Hambly \(W2GPS\)" <w2gps@cnssys.com>
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] RE:  Hamsat now VO-52

William,

I will try to explain the situation as best I can. I apologize in advance for
any
errors as I only have a limited understanding of the situation in India at the
moment.

It has always been AMSAT's policy to recognize only one AMSAT affiliate
organization
in each country.  To be recognized as an affiliate an organization must pass
certain
tests.  Typically, such an organization would be.....
1) Not for Profit, non Governmental.
2) Comprise mainly Amateur Radio personnel
3) Have been involved in the development and launching of a national
satellite, if
applicable and have the capabilities of controlling the satellite and future
Amateur
Radio Satellites built in the country.
5) Represent the majority of the country's Amateur Satellite Users
6) Be open to all of the country's Nationals with an interest in Amateur
Satellite
Technology
7) Accept membership from previous and current national organizations with
similar
objectives.

India has long had a recognized national organization, AMSAT INDIA, whose
recognized
representative is Nagesh Upadhyaya VU2NUD.  This is the person who registered
"VUSat/Hamsat" on 04-July-2005 with International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) -
see
http://www.amsat.org.uk/iaru/finished.asp. This is also the person who
registered the
name VUSat-OSCAR-52 (VO-52) with AMSAT in accordance with the instructions
given at
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/information/faqs/numbers.php. This is all in
accordance with AMSAT and IARU policy and no one complained until later.

From AMSAT's point of view everything went smoothly but within India there is
conflict. No other person or organization has made official contact with the
IARU or
applied for a name through the OSCAR Numbers Policy
(http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/information/faqs/numbers.php). However, at
least two
groups are challenging the authority of the recognized AMSAT INDIA
organization:

1) AMSAT-IN in New Delhi headed by Sri K.V. Prasad, VU2ROC and including
VU2IIS,
VU2IIS, VU2NUD, VU2RM, VU2IAB, VU2NCS, VU2RRG, VU2RCA.

2) A group of Hams from the Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) headed
by Air
Cmde Suby VU2UV, and including VU2RMS, VU2POP, VU3SXE, VU2WMY, VU2BGS, VU2ITI,
VU2MKP, VU3TYG, VU3HCJ, VU2GDX, VU2GUR, VU2MGD, and VU2GGM. This is the group
that
wants VO-52 renamed HO-52.

AMSAT's Vice President of International Affairs and Immediate Past President,
Robin
Haighton VE3FRH, is actively working on a solution to this problem and
questions
relating to these issues should be directed to Robin or me. You can send e-
mail to us
via the AMSAT Web site at http://www.amsat.org/amsat-
new/AboutAmsat/officers.php.

From AMSAT's perspective everything has happened according to normal
procedures
through a recognized AMSAT INDIA authority. The conflicts exist within India
and must
be solved there.  AMSAT will do what we can to assist in the resolution of
these
issues but we have no authority to intervene, only to advise and assist.

Rick
W2GPS
AMSAT President

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-AMSAT-BB@amsat.org [mailto:owner-AMSAT-BB@amsat.org] On Behalf Of
William
Leijenaar
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 5:03 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] RE: Hamsat now VO-52

Hi AMSATs,

It is increadible that the name is still not changed. Its even terrible that
they
even changed the HAMSAT name in VO-52...

Now its like VUSAT (aka HAMSAT), instead of HAMSAT (aka VUSAT)

I am awaiting for the "EAGLE" to be ready. Like the HAMSAT has got another
name by
none participants, I will give the "EAGLE" also another name as none-
participant in
this project.

I will not name it as "EAGLE" but as "VULTURE", or any other kind of ugly
looking
animal...

You think the satellite builder will like that? I didn't even mentioned the US
(Eagle
proud) hams...

Have a nice day x :o)
73
William


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