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I'll play the game a bit here: don't forget to use the same netmask on all
your windows machines. If you do not, there will be intermittent network
problems between the machines as one or another votes itself master and
does it's "hi I'm here, anyone around" broadcasts.
> Possibly there's some other issue. If you install Linux and you just tell
it
> to turn on everything, not knowing what it all is, it might cause a
problem. Me,
> I only run what I need and don't turn on, for example, smbd, or Linux
netbios
> stuff unless I really want it.
> Though I also get all the patches and updates to Win98 pretty regularly.
So,
> maybe that's the obvious and easy thing to try. Me, I'm a little
> hacker paranoid, so if there's some packet of death that blows out
Windows,
> I'd rather know what it is and fix it. Since possibly someone can send in
> that same block from the internet onto your lan.
No, it was clearly the simple act of loading Linux onto the machine that
caused all the problems. They are over now, and everything is back to
normal: nice stable Windows, DOS and CP/M systems.
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Date: 14 Oct 99 22:32:07 GMT
From: sv1uy@nest.sv1uy.ampr.ORG (Demetre Ch. Valaris)
Subject: The BBS network and tcp/ip.
Hank Oredson <horedson@att.net> wrote:
> Where is a HAL P38 / PCI400 driver?
> Where is the server to gateway telnet <-> net/rom <-> CLOVER <-> PACTOR?
Well here is your big opportunity to write them yourself i.e. a driver
for a HAL P38 / PCI400, a driver for a PTC-II etc. This way you would do the
amateur community a favour Hank.
Just an idea for you to create a solution!!! Isn't that what you are looking
for?
73 Demetre SV1UY
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Date: 14 Oct 1999 20:51:38 GMT
From: John Wiley <jw@physics.gmu.edu>
Subject: The BBS network and tcp/ip.
Charles Brabham <n5pvl@texoma.net> wrote:
: D. Stussy <kd6lvw@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote in message
: news:Pine.LNX.4.10.9910130807320.551-100000@dns.bde-arc.ampr.org...
:> >
:> > I have Linux.
:> > Did not find any such software.
:> > Most hams do not (and will not) have Linux.
:> > So Linux is not of interest to me.
:>
:> Didn't find: Well, you need the package called "ax25-utils".
:> The file [/usr/src/]linux/Documentation/networking/ax25.txt tells you
:> where to get this, and the "how-to" file.
: Most of us have nothing better to do with our time than to sift through
: hundreds of obscure text files, hoping to accidently find just the right one
: and figure out how to massage our software into at least semi-functionality.
: That's why everybody is using LINUX, right? The thrill of the hunt?
Charles,
Most Linux users know where the documentation resides... Sorry...
:>
:> Most hams do not ...: Any evidence to back this assumption? Also, since
: Linux
:> is free, cost isn't a problem (yes, most hams I know are cheap).
: The more recent distributions of LINUX cost about the same as a copy of
: Win98.
: I have yet to know a single perason who got LINUX for "free". Everyone I
: know coughed up between 30-80 bucks, depending on how recent a copy they
: wanted.
1) Put me on the list... Redhat 5.1/5.2/6.1... Didn't pay anything but
the price of the CD blank, Chuck... (That was about 0.75USD each...)
2) Once again, you seem to be confused regarding the meaning of
"free" software, Charles... A little education wouldn't
kill you... (But then you'd have no reason to gripe...)
: "Technically", LINUX is free. Here on planet Earth though, we real humans
: tend to find ourselves paying through the nose for it. In fact, by the time
: you buy "add ons" to make up for functions not originally provided by the
: distro, you can easily end up paying more than you would for more competent
: software with wider compatability, like Win95/98.
What?!?
1) 80.00 is hardly "through the nose"...
2) Kindly detail the "addons" that aren't "originally provided" by the
"distro", Charles... I suspect that you won't be able to ...
(Do you mean the *complete* development environment? Gads...
Ever try to buy Developer Studio - Enterprise Edition from
MS, Charles? Tack another several hundred dollars onto your
95/98 estimate...) Let's compare apples to apples, shall we?
3) Compatibility... Running RedHat 6.1 on my Intel Boxes (Laptop...
2xdesktop boxes...) A very fast DEC Alpha... Two SPARCStations...
Im running 95/98/NT UNDER Linux on the two desktop boxes,
Charles as "guest OSes"... Crash free for many moons...
(The Alpha, with the exception of maintenance to upgrade
the OS, has been doing continuous HEAVY numerical work for
OVER 300 days straight without a crash...) Does it get more
competent (whatever THAT means), or "compatible" than that,
Chuckles???
: You are quite welcome to LINUX. I've tried it, and somehow I wasn't very
: impressed. This is one bit of "free" software that is just not worth the
: price.
Well... That's because the Charles Blowhard "Thimble of Clue" is SOOOO
full of clue at this point that no more clue can get in...
It helps if you know what you're talking about Charles... Really it does...
Best of Luck!
-jw
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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:19:26 -0700
From: "Cathryn Mataga" <cathryn@junglevision.com>
Subject: The BBS network and tcp/ip.
Hank Oredson wrote in message <7u5add$nu$1@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
>Not what happened.
>In fact, the problem continued even with the ethernet cable removed
>from the Linux machine. But now that the Linux CD is back in it's box
>on the shelf, and the hard drives reformatted and repartitioned, everything
>is back to normal again.
Well, this is pretty odd. Though it must have been, then, that the Windows
machines are getting some kind of packets while they're booting up. And,
then you disconnected the Linux from them later -- right?
Having a Linux machine, in the same building, with the
Ethernet not connected is no way going to affect Windows -- I think I'm
pretty safe saying that. :) Though I swear, fussing with these things, I've
seen all kinds of weird stuff happen. But, it's not like Linux is giving off
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