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software for Windows, since I don't imagine ham radio doing a mass migration
to Linux. Nobody can tell on the air, what kind of operating system you're
using
unless you tell them. Though my estimate is that
most of the people on the air here in the SF Bay area are
using Linux varients with or without TNOS or JNOS for DOS. Or they're
using old old DOS systems running DOS PPBS software. That and a few
nodes, I guess, that are running Z80 boxes. I believe the HF email gateways
are running Windows, however. I'm not sure what the argument here is about.
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Date: 14 Oct 1999 01:38:30 GMT
From: Brian Mullaney <mullaneb@tecoma.mccc.edu>
Subject: The BBS network and tcp/ip.
Hank Oredson <horedson@att.net> wrote:
> As a long term Unix developer I could tell you all the horror stories
> you might like about getting SunOS and Solaris and HPUX and BSD
> to all run the same application. "Fully incompatible" is more like it.
You don't find it even slightly dishonest to try an draw parallels between
a half-baked desktop OS that only runs on 1 platform and one that comes in
many different flavors, and runs on many platforms?
> So tell us how you use it with ham radio.
The AX.25 stuff must be all in my imagination.....
> Can you do all the "Where is" in my previous post?
Nothing on your list seems to be installed under Win98... Where can I find
them on the Win98 CD?
> Pretty much everything, to change Linux from a just a "toy OS"
> into a "functional workstation". And I never did find most applications
> that I need to get useful work done. They ain't there yet. See the
Examples?
Brian
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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:26:55 GMT
From: nomail@pe1chl.demon.nl (Rob Janssen)
Subject: The BBS network and tcp/ip.
Hank Oredson <horedson@att.net> wrote:
>> Software: Except for above, everything else comes in the "network"
>portion of
>> the distribution. Also, recompile the kernel for AX.25 support.
>I did this. Simple. And I had nothing useful.
>It did not route IP over NET/ROM, just for one example.
I already told you there is a need for an installation wizard that sets up
the thing to just work, instead of requiring every new user to study a
lengthy howto and become an expert in network layering.
However, I did not realize that you would have the same problem yourself...
Rob
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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:35:05 GMT
From: nomail@pe1chl.demon.nl (Rob Janssen)
Subject: The BBS network and tcp/ip.
D. Stussy <kd6lvw@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:
>I run both systems: I have ONE Windows 95 (and there was no reason for me to
>upgrade to '98) running on the same hardware as a Linux box (both are on
>486DX2's at 66MHz, 32mb of 60ns 30-pin SIMM's, and identical motherboards).
>There is alot of stuff where the Linux box is faster in doing as compared to
>the Windows box, but not everything. The only reason I even keep the Windows
>box is because I use that computer for my business also and many of the
>programs simply don't have unix ports (yet). [BTW, although I only have the
>ONE windows box, I have 3 linux boxes, with others in various stages of
>construction and installation.]
I have only a single box. A P233MMX with 192MB RAM.
It does everything, including running Windows if I want. 3 instances when
I like.
How? I purchased VMware (http://www.vmware.com) and I created some
virtual machines. Those can run Windows95, WindowsNT, or even Linux!
When I get a new Linux distribution, I create a VM, install Linux on it,
and see what is new, what is nice about the installer, what critical bugs
there may be, *without even rebooting my physical machine!*.
The entire VM is running in a window on my X desktop.
Of course, IBM Mainframe owners have done this since the sixties, but
in PC land it is a nice new toy.
Rob
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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:30:01 GMT
From: nomail@pe1chl.demon.nl (Rob Janssen)
Subject: The BBS network and tcp/ip.
Hank Oredson <horedson@att.net> wrote:
>I still cannot ping any hams direct from Linux. I am forced to go
>through a router running in DOS that CAN connect through
>the NET/ROM network to other hams running tcp/ip.
You can use that method if you like, but you don't need DOS for it.
You can run the Linux version of NET that you found on my homepage,
set it up to use a separate IP address and a SLIP link to the kernel
via a tty/pty pair, and it will work just fine.
However, it is not required to do it this way, it is just convenient
when you don't want to stop using NET (or one of the many *NOS versions
of which a similar Linux version exists).
Rob
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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:26:26 +0200
From: "E.D" <ed3@club-internet.fr>
Subject: visit my site
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http://perso.club-internet.fr/ed3/
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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 20:45:50 GMT
From: marsgal42@hotmail.com
Subject: WEFAX format...
In article
<7CEF26813712783D.F238A50AD8AB0B5A.73E30DA98F92E9C0@lp.airnews.net>,
"Dave Covert" <davecove@thecoverts.com> wrote:
>
> Can anyone provide me (or point me to) a detailed description of the
HF
> Wefax format? I feel like writing some code... <g>
You could start looking from:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/HFFAX/
Isn't there information on the subject in Taggart? My copy is
at home and I'm not... :-(
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Grid: FN03gs a terre..." - Hospital/Shafte
Satellite: VA3SFL on UO-22, KO-25
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Before you buy.
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